Yes Sir
Best MOS in the Corps…
Haha
Sure, just pm me your address and I’ll mail it right out!
0317 sounds pretty fun too buddy!
Man, it must be my lucky day, just like the other day, when I won the Nigerian lottery in the mail!!!
OP read this and decide. filthy 14
http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/filthy14_oct10.pdf
http://www.defensereview.com/the-big-m4-myth-fouling-caused-by-the-direct-impingement-gas-system-makes-the-m4-unreliable/
gunk on the bolt, id buy a daniel defense or a bcm, a case of ammo and run it in a training class and let a high end di gun impress you
I thought the same thing about wanting a piston gun. Cleaner, less crud to worry about, runs cooler etc. I remember the days when we had to clean our weapons and they had to be spotless! I was in the Army from 85-89. No matter what you did you could always find gunk somewhere. In basic at the end of our cycle and we had to inventory everything and do that final weapons cleaning I think it took about 2-3 hrs to finally pass inspection. Unbelievable!!. Then I found this site. When I read all the threads and post about weapons not being cleaned for 1000’s of rounds and running fine I almost didn’t believe it. Over the history of this platform you have always heard that if it isn’t clean it won’t run. Well it’s BS basically. Keeping the weapon wet/lubed is a big part of it. I remember qualifying during basic and my DI taking a big squirt bottle of CLP and basically drenching my BCG. My first thoughts were Gee Thanks now it’s going to get gummed up with dirt right in the middle of qualifying and I will have to requalify or worse get a marksman score. When I read here that this platform runs best when wet that memory popped right back into my head with a great big AH HAA.
So I forgot about the Piston setup and went with a DI gun. The savings allowed me to get a good sight for my weapon. I’ve put about 2000 rounds down range and the only cleaning I’ve done is a quick wipe down of the BCP and then relube it.
As a couple of others have said here both LMT and LWRC make very good weapons. If you are set on those 2 then go for the LMT since it is easier to switch out barrels and even go back and forth from Piston to DI. DD, BCM, Noveske and Colt would be my choices for DI guns. Actually I have a buddy now that is getting his first M4 since he left the CG and he almost pulled the trigger on a Rock River weapon. Thankfully I was able to direct him here and to a few stickies to read. He’s now flipping a coin between a DD or Colt weapon.
Read as much as you can on the site. There is an unbelievable amount of info here. A lot of it will contradict what we all were taught from basic on. It will really open up your eyes.
Man, Do I ever remember those days. Even when I got to my unit our Bn armorer would bust our balls and make us clean our weapons to the point of they looked like they were just off of Colt’s assembly line!
I’ve even read posts here and on other forums that claimed several thousands of rounds had been fired through various weapons without cleaning. I remember thinking to myself “what idiots! He’s going to ruin that weapon!” Old habits die hard. Especially when it stems from your DI or Gunny breathing down your neck. Call me sick, brainwashed, psycho or whatever but I actually like cleaning my guns.
My RRA came out of “Obama Scare” and because the store gave me the police discount because I’m a firefighter. It was my divorce present to myself. I still shoot 1 to 1.5" groups at 100 yards with it (100 is all my club has, but dues are cheap).
Are you shitting me? 
Don’t EVER support the scum that is LWRC… even if they actually made a gun half as good as their employees and friends claim on ALL the forums… They’re still scumbags.
But, how do you really feel? Lol
It’s not that RRA’s, Bushmasters, DPMS etc are such shitty weapons. It’s more that your paying so much money for relatively poor quality weapons when for the same price you can have a weapon that has been put together in the proper manner. I equate it to what “Made in America” used to mean compared to what “Made in China” is. What is lacking in those weapons is so simple to do that it’s a real shame they don’t and are charging the prices they are. When you pay $700 like you did then it’s really no big deal. You could make the upgrades youself for very little cost if you wanted to. If not, you still shoot the hell out of it with the realization of what you have. It’s not like your shooting a Lorsen .380 or some other piece of crap weapon. It’s more like a Taurus 1911 instead of a Wilson 1911 or some other top of the line weapon.
Ah crap! I’ve got the “Taurus” of AR’s!!! Lol. I have done a few “upgrades” in fact only the receivers, BCG and trigger are original. Everything else is a hodgepodge of GG&G, Troy or YHM and a nikon scope.
Man… you really do track down all LWRC threads and bash away. Whats with all the hate man? Your pure hatred for LWRC sounds a little fishy. Have to say I have never seen someone who is so consistently butt hurt by a company.
Back to the original question, both are great guns. your choice between LMT and LWRC. 
Piston guns are FAR more reliable than DI carbines.
The LWRC M6A2 (A3), is one of the very best of the piston carbines, absolutely.
The LMT Piston 16 IS THE VERY BEST of the piston carbines, bar none. HK’s 556, and Barrett’s REC7, are comparable, but, to me, inferior.
I’ll go into this much more in depth, a little later, as I just lost the long dissertation I was writing, addressing the specifics of this, and the specifics of why pistons are far better than DI weapons, and it’s sure not just because “I don’t have to clean it as much”.
(and you DI lovers, don’t even say that piston guns have “bolt carrier canting issues”, as, even if some do, I’d much rather keep an eye on, and replace as necessary, the buffer tube, than have a weapon suddenly become inoperable, from a broken bolt, or extractor.)
I’ll also touch on why LMT piston 16s are better than the HKs, and Barretts.
LOL
To the OP: I’m right there with ya in having the cleaning regimen beaten into my skull. I was in the Army from 07-10 as an Infantryman and was solidly convinced that in order to run the M4 it had to be spotless, and I even went through a phase where I wanted an LMT piston and on top of that had one on order direct from LMT in 2009. Luckily the year long backorder dissuaded me and I ended up building my current rifle using Noveske, DD, and Rainier parts as far as the major components go at least. My rifle runs like a sewing machine and even after 1200 rds down the pipe without a major cleaning it still has yet to experience a gun related malfunction (except one FTF from using a bad batch of Tula).
I’d certainly take a look at the Daniel Defense rifles. They are works of art.
I cant wait for this :). Just make sure you make your own thread okay.
OP. The LMT MRP DI guns are really cool and if you can afford it that would be a great buy. OR you can buy a Colt, BCM, DD or a standard LMT and save about a thousand buck which would buy you an Aimpoint and a case of good ammo.
Where have you been these past few years? To think, all this could have been answered years ago with your post. Thank you for setting all the experts straight. :rolleyes:
Piston guns are fine but absolutely not needed and not better than their DI counterparts. I had a 12" MRP and a 8" PSD. LMT hands down but I will not buy another piston AR.
Why has been covered numerous times, but I find my DI guns to be better shooters all around and save some weight on top of that. I put a lot of rounds through these guns and there was nothing a piston AR did better.
Now, if we’re talking about the SCAR, for example, that’s different, but there’s no need for the piston guns, especially with what you give up over DI.
Hmm. I’m a little late, but it still should be a good show. Im gunna go make some crab cakes, this looks promising in terms of its entertainment value.
From now on, I am going to encourage every one to buy an LWRC. I suggest the other forum regulars do the same because if we get Iraqgunz to time it right, we can get video of markm’s head exploding 
I got a pretty good talking to by a Marine who is now a First Sergeant Soldier when I turned my weapon in and it was not clean or lubed to his standards.
I was given picks, brushes and rods, had to scrap every surface, and basically turn the weapon in borderline dry with one less layer of anodizing practically.
LOL
Say what? An LWRC m6a2(a3) is not a DI rifle. You expect us to take you seriously on why an lmt piston is the “VERY BESTESTSSSSSESTEST” when you don’t even know that an lwrc is also a short stroke piston?
I own BOTH the m6a2 and lmt piston. You obviously praise the lmt piston because that’s the one you bought.