Is the LMT 2- stage trigger worth the extra money or not?
Over a standard commercial single-stage trigger? Umm… Yes. I’d probably go with the WOA RRA mainly because of the price. The difference in feel is negligible.
For a little more money you can have the JP match trigger and speed hammer combo which is really nice. Set right, it has a full travel of about 1mm, with a hair reset, and for light use on the bench or varminting, it’s a great trigger, though I’d probably stick with the LMT/RRA/Armalite 2-stage for duty use.
For the extra bucks, I absolutely love my KAC and it breaks crisp (like an early Colt Python). My KAC setups are nicer than the Geiselle trigger I tried, though I’m sure it wasn’t adjusted properly, and I didn’t have time to mess with it… Still waiting to get one of my own to play with, but I’m sure after fine tuning it, it should match or exceed the KAC.
Oh, and my KAC breaks much nicer than the JP, but comparing a single to a double is apples and oranges, IMO.
I love my LMT two stage. I have had a Rock River NM and I think the LMT is better.
I’ve always wondered how the LMT compared to the RR in terms of design, pull weight, pull quality, and durability.
Can anyone comment?
I already did. I said the difference is negligible and that I would go for the RRA over the LMT for the price. ![]()
Other than the RRAs annoying tendency to turn into a long squishy single stage.
TWO did for me.
There are really only two combat rated 2 stage triggers IMHO. They are the KAC and the Geiselle. From what I am told, the KAC triggers are breaking and the USA is replacing them with the Geiselle trigger.
I personally use the Geiselle triggers and believe that they are the best 2 stage trigger on the market and are made for serious use.
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Yes, I keep hearing that about the RRAs. I haven’t heard that about the LMTs. That’s why I was wondering about the difference in their designs.
I’ve heard this too, and wondered where the LMT fit in the picture. I haven’t heard of the LMTs failing, but that may be a function of them seeing less hard use than the KAC and the Geiselle.
Some will tell you that the RRA and LMT are the same trigger (maybe). My LMT 2 stage ran fine for me, but it is no Geiselle trigger.
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Similar in concept, but different in execution.
Now here is a stupid question??? What exactly is a 2-stage trigger and how does it differ from a regular triger? I have never used one so im in the dark.
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Basically (as the name implies), there are two stages before the hammer drops. The first stage is basically slack and takes you to a “wall” or a stopping point. The next pull after that is what drops the hammer.
Think of the first stage on a two stage trigger as the warning track.
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What would be the tactical advantage of the 2-stage vs. the single stage? Im guessing accidental discharge?
High end single stage triggers (like the Timney and JP) are set at around 2-4lbs. The first stage of a two stage trigger is generally around 4lbs.
When you get nervous (scared) that your going to have to shoot someone breaking into your home, you will most likely put your finger on the trigger (which I know is a no no, but does happen). Having a single stage trigger set to 2-4lbs is a very bad thing IMHO for any weapon that you might use to defend yourself with.
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A good two-stage trigger has most of the trigger weight in the take-up (1st stage). This lets you work on your sight picture knowing that just a small amount of pressure (with no movement) will break the shot.
I totally disagree. I have used both and I would only go with the LMT out of the two. The LMT was smoother and had a cleaner break point. The RRA was rough and stiff. I was told by a vender that he had at least 25% of his RRA triggers returned. Then again he may have been trying to sell me on a LMT.
Ive only had my Defender 2000 M4 SOPMOD 2 stage for a little over a year now and have under 2000 rds fired
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I do like it alot
I just installed an LMT 2 stage in my lower. The first stage is sort of rough, like a light grinding during take up. No noise, just rough feeling. 2nd stage is nice and clean. Anyone else experience this?
It should clean up with use.
I am using the Armalite 2 Stage Tactical right now everyone says the Armalite 2 Stage Tactical, RRA 2 stage and LMT 2 Stage are very much alike but I have used the RRA and I like my Armalite 2 stage tactical better, it has a better break then the RRA I cant really say on the LMT I have never used it and as for Bushmaster it is prolly the worst I have used… But I know you can send your Armalite and rra out and have it tuned. I might do that and yeah if it is new some of the creep will go away after some breaking in.