Live round, stuck in chamber.

LWRC M6A2, firing suppressed. Fired one 20 rd mag, slowfire with FC brass cased GI.

My Buddy decides to shoot some grey, non lacquered TULA out of it.
Fired 15 rds…then a round partially chambered and STUCK in the chamber. Tried tapping it out with a GI cleaning rod…It IS stuck.

Soaked the chamber end and through the barrel with KROIL about an hour ago. Figured that would do it. NO joy. Have a GI rod and tried to tap it out with both a 16 oz hammer and a lead faced hammer. NOT pounding but hitting it enough that it should come out.

ANY ideas??

You could take it apart, I don’t know if that will really help. I think you are going to have to beat it out. WARNING! If and when you do beat it out assume the cartridge will fire propelling the rod out the muzzle and the case out the breech. If it happens both will have enough velocity to kill anyone standing in the way so don’t stand in the way. Orient the upper receiver to shield yourself from fragments and wear safety glasses. When I have a bore obstruction issue that will not clear easily I use a piece of drill rod available from McMaster Carr using the largest size that will fit the bore which is 13/64 for .224 bore. Buy a 3 foot piece and cut it to a reasonable length, say 20 or 24 inches. Cleaning rods are not the best thing for pounding out obstructions. BTW it is probably a bit of metal that has the cartridge wedged in, either from the previous cartridge or less likely from a broken part in the gun.

Bolt is short 1/2" or more from closing on the round, so tough to take it apart.

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If you can get the bolt back far enough, you can bang it out from the muzzle end with cleaning rods. No chance of it going off doing that.

I can lock the bolt back so the bolt is not touching the round.

I’d hoped the KROIL would have done it!

I have NEVER had ANY case stuck in a chamber like this one. And of course it had to be a LIVE round!

I take it you tried pulling on the charging handle while banging the rifle on a bench, buttstock first? That worked for me with a live, stuck rnd in my Sig 716. Make sure to collapse the stock all the way. Sorry if this was the first thing you tried. Why did you let your bud shoot that crapp through your rifle anyway?

Just figured out the WHY.

It’s a Hornady, steel cased 5.45x39 round.

:suicide::suicide:

:suicide:

Well looks like your “buddy” needs a good punch in the dick.

At least you now know why it is stuck and didn’t chamber…

Be very careful. People have been killed tapping them out, there are several mentions of 5.45 cases stuck in this thread…

https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-45027.html

Yeah a “Good news…BAD news” deal for sure.

My fault…relatively new shooter…I should have watched him more closely. The 5.45 rds were on the bench and I had mentioned they were DIFFERENT than 5.56 and we were done with the AK-74…moving to the AR.

NOW to figure WHO to get to remove the round. And HOW?

You’re not supposed to do that.

Can you get in there with needle nose pliers and use the rim to pull it out. Or even pry it out with them? Just be careful.

We had this happen at a shoot of ours, took Ned at Michigun to get it out with special tools. Good luck, a live one stuck like that can very dangerous.

I’m pretty sure he posted about it here, https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-45027.html

Jeff

I was kindly pointed in the direction of an old 2010 thread. A gunsmith possibly…“Ned Christiansen” posted that he ended up making a special fixture and using a slide hammer to pound it out!!

I feel SO STUPID! I so , absolutely, know better…but still fucked up. Should have TOTALLY separated the different rounds instead of simply verbalizing it. Never to old to learn I guess. :mad:

Since it’s a 5.45 can we assume the rim is protruding from the chamber a bit, maybe enough to grab with anything?

Nothing wrong with making a mistake bud as long as you learn from it.

-Jax

I don’t want to screw up the rim…probably needs to be intact to pull the case out.

I’m hoping a Smith will chime in before Monday with an idea. Monday I’ll call LWRC and see what they say.

FN in MT

Using a hammer to knock out a stuck case does not work very well. Instead, drop or toss the rod down the bore until it knocks it out. Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and place the butt against something solid.

Using a hammer usually results in the energy being wasted by the rod flexing. Tossing or even just dropping the rod works much better. A one piece rod with a heavy handle works very well. It’s what I’ve used over the years to remove a variety of stuck cases. I have even used a short piece of drill rod when I didn’t have a cleaning rod handy

Good luck bud, keep us posted as to how you finally return your gun to working order.