Thanks, I appreciate all of the info and this is probably the best advice given. I am just going to buy a new barrel and stick it on the upper I have, ill also change out the bcg.
I have one of each. An 18" LaRue Stealth upper and a stripped billet lower that I filled with top shelf parts.
Together they shoot very well.
You can’t go wrong with LaRue products. ![]()

The BAD lever does not work on the LaRue billet uppers due to clearance issues.
However, the Phase 5 Tactical EBRv2 does work. I have one on my SPR.
Step 1: Dump the gun.
Step 2: Get a blemished lower from Grant, with G&R LPK.
Step 3: Get a BCM, or FailZero BCG.
Step 4: Get a Centurion, or BCM upper.
Step 5: Profit.
500grains made a good point. What is your application of this? If you are wanting to put a whole mag into 1 hole a 1k then nope. If you’re wanting to punch holes in beer cans, who cares.
I know I’ll get flak for this but who cares if you have a DPMS? I’ve got one that is commemorative from my Deployment. I’ve got a stripped lower of theirs. I’ve used a few of their LPKs.
Yes there are many, many users on here who use high dollar rigs but they also use their gear. Which they depend their lives on. And as someone else said, learn from it for your own sake. Yes having knowledge is good but you also need to learn from your own experiences. Apparently my RRA is a shit rifle compared to others but guess what I love it. Its a carbine length gas system and had I read more about mids I would have gotten one. On the same flip side, I typically don’t shoot green tip or hotter loads. The only thing about my RRA that I don’t neccessary care for anymore is the quad rail. The Larue handguard is where its at for me from now on.
Chances are there’s nothing wrong with your DPMS. And as far as the Zombie hoards go, I highly doubt that the majority of users could run their guns to failure before they are turned undead themselves.
As for Colts go, my experience is limited to M16A2s and M4s. And even though I’ve put hundreds of rounds through them on range days, I’ve had malfunctions. Most of those can be attributed to the crap mags have have been abused and should have been retired thousands of rounds prior. I also have seen the Colts malfunction like crazy to troops not cleaning or lubing them like they should.
Shoot your gun and plan for your next build.
good attitude. I see BCM has their stripped 1/7 carbine midlength barrels for sale at a very reasonable price.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Barrel-Stripped-p/bcm-brl-s-mid-16%20std.htm
however, this would require you to get a new gas tube and handguard if your rifle is now a carbine length.
if you wanted to stick with car gas, you can get a great Daniel Defense barrel for even less.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=461614
good luck…
Perfect, thanks ra2bach. This will do just fine for a barrell. I just ordered the dd.
I really like my DD’s. I think you’ll be happy.
I disagree. I’m comfortable with any in spec lower, but for the upper, I want a HPT/MPI BCG and barrel, made out of the right steel and QA’d properly.
Extraction and ejection occur in the upper. Precision is dependent on the upper–along with ammo, of course. The controlled explosion when you pull the bang switch occurs in the upper.
The Dpms probably cost alot less that what a Larue will cost you.
Last year I wanted a low priced knock around Ar so I built one with a Stag Arms Upper. I got like $700 -$800 into this gun compared to some of my $3000 builds.
There’s nothing wrong with your Dpms. I would check the steaking of the gas key and check for a tight chamber. If it runs fine keep it, enjoy it. And maybe go for a Larue on your next build.
Mark Larue doesn’t treat his customers well and has a rep as a A hole.
After spending thousands with his company I don’t plan to do anymore business with his company after a reply he made to me me on a forum.
Mark Larue doesn’t treat his customers well and has a rep as a A hole.
Bullshit.
You get butt hurt and now Larue doesn’t treat his customers well? Larue takes better care of his customers than almost anyone in the industry. Period. Not to mention what he does for our troops.
Yea man, I am a texan as well, maybe that is why he did not like you…
This day and age I think I’d pick BCM or Daniel Defense instead of rebuilding around your upper. Cold hammer forged barrels, shoot better than a 5.56 defense rifle actually needs to, and when they claim their BCG’s are held to MIL SPEC quality testing they’re not lying like some others. Once you factor in the price compared to other options and the additional features, I think they’re unbeatable.
Avoiding the soap opera of the gun world Larue BS, they probably make an excellent accuracy rig. If you want a defensive rifle I just think the others have more features, quality control, and don’t carry as steep of a price.
yea this is what I am going to do. I went with the DD because I want to stick with my carbine rail system. I plan on doing another build around a .458 socom, but I am really happy with my .223 exept for the upper which will be changed here shortly. Any suggestions on bcg? I heard spikes was good but ill look into larue.
My guess is he made a “reply” to you because you are an idiot.
Anyone who boasts about having $700-$800 into a Stag build on M4Carbine has gotta be. While simultaneously talking up your “$3000 builds”.
Hell, I don’t have $3000 in any one of my cars but at least I’m smart enough to spend $850 or so on a Daniel Defense or BCM “build”.
Oops… now I guess you have to boycott me as well.
LOL
IBTL
We all know you are in a high stress environment. You constantly remind us. It shows in your posts and behavior.
It would be prudent if you would understand that most of us are not and lose the attitude.
Why are you chastising a guy for explaining his build and opinion??? Why not just state yours and act like an adult???
You have a wealth of first hand knowledge and we appreciate you sharing it, but be mindful…we are not your subordinates.
This coming from a guy who post the quote below…:rolleyes: You have ZERO credibility. 120 just happens to have a bit of credibility… Have you ever dealt with Larue? Care to discuss all of the propaganda and more importantly all of the “movement” in a lower… Here is a tip for you… The lower is one of the LEAST important factors on a AR as long as its in spec which is why you will see a BCM upper on a Bushmaster lower etc… But if you really believe the lower is so critical because of all of the movement I would assume you would have bought a few Larue lowers as they are considered amongst the best…
It would be “prudent” as you put it, to read more and post less.
Shoot it. It’s just an upper. Not much difference between them all except barrel. If she is accurate and feeds then why change or sell. Way too much propaganda here always this maker or you have trash.
I would not want a cheap lower, BCG, springs, trigger, etc. though. The lower and BCG is where all the movement is and you need or even want reliability. Nothing is worse than a trip to the range and having your rifle malfunction. FTE/FTF??? WTF???
There has already been alot of responses in this thread ranging from “dump it and buy BCM/DD/etc.” to “DPMS is fine…
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In all honesty you should first congratulate yourself for realizing that DPMS was a mistake and that there are better options out there. Depending on your use for said weapon, that could be a realization that could save your life (or at the very least give you a lot less headaches down the road). Now as to what to actually do, that depends on what your use of the rifle is.
First I would ask you are you willing to take the loss in money by selling it (assuming you wont break even)? If yes, get a BCM (great variety and fair prices). If you can only afford an upper, get that and replace the lower parts kit in the lower with one from G&R tactical. However, a blemished complete BCM lower is VERY reasonable.
If you cant bring yourself to feel like you wasted money, then keep it and use it as a training tool with the understanding that it is NOT suitable for any role to which you might have to trust your (or others) life to it. If it goes down in training, then a few metal plates may be spared that day, but it’s not the end of the world. Then save up and buy a quality AR (BCM/DD/Noveske/LaRue/LMT/Colt).
That’s about the best advice I can give. Alot will depend on you, but the DPMS is not a hard-use AR. So you can either sell it outright right now, or put it in a role where it will not have to be relied upon for anything serious and save to get a quality AR in the future. It all depends on you. Good luck!
Big shocker. Dick measuring and butt hurt over off topic comments. Knock it off and stick to technical firsthand experience in regards to the question asked.
This is not hard gentlemen.