Korean M1 Garands can be imported afterall

Hopefully the bureaucrats don’t fuck this one up, but it’s been reported thatthey may be letting the Korean M1’s into the country afterall. They don’t provide much detail but here’s the article:

Firearms will be sold to Korean War veterans

By Lee Tae-hoon

Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.

“The U.S. government approved the imports of some 86,000 of the rifles,” said Lee Sun-chul, deputy defense minister for force and resources management.

“The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year.”

Kim Mi-sung, an official of the force and resources management office, said the defense ministry received an approval letter from the United States on Sept. 2 last year that stated Washington agreed to allow the importation of the M1s.

She noted that the U.S. government, however, rejected Seoul’s proposal to export some 600,000 M1 Carbines, which were also used in the Korean War, as they come with a magazine that can carry multiple rounds unlike the Garands.

“We plan to announce a bid later this month or in February for the selection of agencies to sell the M1 rifles to Americans,” Kim said. “The U.S. has been reviewing legal procedures for the approval of a third party transfer.”

The official said Korea plans to purchase locally developed K2 rifles with the money raised by selling the M1s.

The Obama administration blocked the purchase of 87,310 M1 Garands and 770,160 M1 Carbines in 2010, saying the American-made antique rifles could “potentially be exploited by individuals seeking firearms for illicit purposes.”

The move, however, triggered strong criticism among gun collectors, who said the U.S. government was being excessively concerned about possible firearm incidents involving the aging semiautomatic rifles.

In February last year, U.S. Sen. Jon Tester and Rep. Cynthia Lummis proposed bills for an amendment of the Arms Export Control Act to guarantee that U.S.-made military firearms classified as “curios and relics” will not be blocked from importation.

The legislations allow firearms more than 50 years old, considered antiques or relics and lawfully possessed by a foreign government, to be imported into the United States through properly licensed groups and sold without written permission from the U.S. State or Defense Departments.

A senior defense ministry official, however, raised the possibility that the U.S. government may cancel the plan to allow the purchase the M1s, saying Seoul has yet to finalize negotiations with Washington.

``We have yet to receive confirmation from the United States over our proposal,” he said. “The U.S. government may change its position at the last minute due to political considerations.”

M1s were made first in 1926 and used during World War II and the Vietnam War. The carbines were first produced in 1941 and used during the 1950-1953 Korean War.

They currently sell for around $220, according to another defense ministry official.

I sure as hell hope so. I would really like a garand.

They currently sell for around $220, according to another defense ministry official.

They currently sell for around 220? They’re 500-600 from CMP, which is generally considered to be a low price.

I had just placed my order for a service grade Garand from the CMP before this news hit. I’m guessing prices are going to get depressed pretty soon in the Garand market. Oh well.

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Who knows what condition these Korean M1s will be in and even if the price drops a little you still got a great firearms for a good price. Besides who knows how long it will be until the Koreans hit the shelves, if ever.

When they arrive, I’ll pick one up that needs some love, but I’m not in a hurry. Eventually somebody will realize that any money that can be made on these is worth peeling back the red tape.

I don’t think prices will get depressed, God only knows what kind of shape these rifles are in, and how many out of that 86k can actually be fired, But the fact is, they’re not being made anymore, Prices will only go one way…UP. Especially if some importer like Century gets ahold of them, using their own “grading” system this assures that poor quality rack& field grade M1’s will sell for $7-800, and anything close to a service grade will be well over 1k…,and of course, you don’t have to jump through as many “hoops” to buy one like you do throught the CMP:rolleyes:

American goods cannot be “imported”. They are classified as “American goods-Returned” and are exempt duty and and restriction. How DOS ended up weighing in on a clearly settled Customs issue is beyond me. If these had showed up at a port a year ago in a container there isn’t anything anyone could have done to stop it if the paperwork was in order.

If they sold for around $220, then they will be at least $600 when sold here. They will be much more worn that CMP rifles because unlike Greek used rifles or other countries, they were used a lot, trained with for years and years. Remember, Korea has been at war with a cease fire since the 1950’s. They are always on alert and training for war. I had some carnine imported from Korea in the 1990’s. They were well worn and in rough shape.

Most military weapons are carried a lot and shot a little. The ROK army is pretty good about taking care of their equipment.

I would really like to see some reasonable M1 carbines coming back from the ROK.

There should be a number (100,000+) of M1 Carbines in that lot as well. The big question is who is going to get them? My understanding is they were not loaned to South Korea. South Korea purchased them and therefore they will not go back to the U.S. Military. Which unfortunately means the CMP may not see any of these and if that is the case I would question what “armorer” looks over them.

I received an M1 that was imported out of SE Asia a number of years ago and there were a lot of parts that needed to be replaced to get it ready to shoot. This rifle would have been a CMP receiver at best.

You never seen any of the “Blue Sky Imports” M1 Garands did you? These came from Korea… I’ve seen a few, and with a couple of exceptions, they all were well worn, bores looked like sewer pipes,and in a couple cases they looked like they were dragged behind a truck for a few miles…While there might be a few gems in this next pile coming in, I would’nt expect much…except that whatever importer buys them will charge an outrageous price…

The Koreans still have some M1s in their drums from the post-WW2 rebuild programs… and M1 carbines too. Not that it actually means anything, the drums would have to be opened up if they evey make it back here. These rifles are going to run the same gamut that the Danish/Greek/Italian returns from the CMP were… very nice to worn out crap.

I wouldn’t expect any decrease in value, most folks pay way more that a rebuild should go for anyhow. It would be cool to see some “new” condition McGregor rebuilds from SA come out of the cans.

Wow…

But I have to believe that out of 600,000+ carbines there must be a few good ones.

I guess I got lucky. My CMP service grade M1 is really nice.

That’s just it. CMP does a great job at sorting and checking their rifles. You’ll always get good products from them and I hope to hell these end up going to them. If they go to SARCO or Century expect some overpriced rough looking guns. My IBM carbine I got from CMP was $475 and it was in pretty good shape, the same Carbine from any other company was $800+ and not as good of shape.

Mark my words, they will not be as nice as what the CMP had. How long were the Danes or Greeks at war while they were issued Carbines? The Koreans have been in a state of war and especially during the time they used Carbines. They will be worn from use. They will be fired as well. As for Carbines that are still sealed in long term storage drums, they will be sold at a premium from the rest. Don’t expect a $500 rifle in great shape. They will be priced over $600 and willbe well worn.

FYI I received the email CMP sent out stating that these will not be sold by them.

Always a good thing to see more M1 and M1 Carbines coming back to the US markets. The history nut part of me loves Garands:D.

I have a few Garands, but was only able to buy one carbine from the CMP while they were available. It’s a service grade Quality Hardware, and it’s in great shape. I’d really like another, but the CMP apparently isn’t getting these rifles/carbines.