You are right about CZ. They have quite good gun laws, getting gun license is fairly easy and there is possibility for CCW permit. Generally CZ is nice place to live.
In Poland situation regarding gun law improved. That means obtaining sporting, hunting or collecting license is doable. Unfortunately Police “fights back” by restricting number of firearms when issuing license. CCW is possible, but getting it is based on “good will” of Police. Genrally funny thing is that gun ownership and good gun law have support of politicians from all sides, opposition is Police and mass media. 2 years ago we started something that we want to become our NRA equivalent (it is called ROMB). Unfortunately our law system is unstable (Parliament are changing everything all the time) and bureaucracy is huge and with anti-citizen stance. In bureaucratic procedures you are presumed to be guilty and to prove other way lays on you. Commie legacy. But in general, it is quite good country to live. I spoke to a guy who flee commie Poland in '60s and he lives in USA since. He told me that this days Poland looks more and more like US in '60s, while US looks to him more and more like Poland in '60s.
Very interesting country to consider, with very liberal gun laws is also Lithuania. Very important is that they have for last 20 years very stable weapon policy and only change in meantime was to lift up 9x18mm limit on pistol calibres - politicians (sic!) came to conclusion that it is irrelevant what size bullet is shot from a firearms, so no need to restrict private owners to “safe” calibre. Downside is that there is only one firearms dealer in Lithuania - Firearms Found of Ministry of Interior. But my friends from Lithuania do not have problem with getting what they want - there are provisions in EU law to purchase firearms in other EU countries.
Denmark and Netherlands are not good for gun ownership and consistently working toward reducing or elimination private firearms ownership. Recently in Danmark they wanted to ban civilians from any form of “practical” or “dynamic” shooting on basis that “drawing loaded gun is extremely dangerous activity, moving whit gun in hand is only for LE”. Local shooter barely managed to stop it, because ban was supported and in fact sponsored by local Olympic Shooting Association (yes, shooters against shooters…).
I learned history during commie times, but as far as I remember Texas is only State that can exit The Union if they decide to do so. Part of terms of joining The Union.
Funny (actually no so) thing is that in early '90 we discussed here, that USSR could peacefully collapse because their constitution allowed member Soviet Republics to leave The Union, while if it ever come for USA to collapse it will end in blood and next Civil War, because US constitution does not allow any State to leave. Political fiction? Peaceful collapse of USSR was considered extreme political fiction for several decades.
So I was mislead. They teached us that legal reason for Civil War was lack of lawful way for states to secede from union. Actually they call it Secession War in history books here.
With any of the countries mentioned…can you move there and take the guns you already own?
THAT seems to be the biggest problem. Many places make you live there for a year or more…THEN you can apply and buy guns later on. Probably at higher prices and not the ones you have right now.
If you could move to CZ, Panama or wherever and take your large collection with you…then you might have something.
I think the consensus here is the Civil War was about slavery, with state’s rights being a form of a euphemism. At the time the South’s entire economy depended on slavery while the North had little stake in it other than the raw goods it was getting from the South. I would wager most common soldiers didn’t know any more than that their state needed them to fight “the oppressive North” or something along those lines. But every state has always had the option to secede.
Hey, if the Mountain States/Texas secede will you let the West Coast join you if we cordon off our cities as “Statist reservations?” We’ll save the port facilities.
I hear Uruguay has pretty good laws, easy to emigrate to, and pretty much hands off government. It would have to get damn bad in the US before I would move though. I would rather burn and pillage DC first!
If we do not get rid of the central bank then no moving around of the political pieces will make any difference, they will still dance to the same bankers tune. Also, having worked in state govt many years I left after concluding that nothing short of a 50%-70% cut in govt funding would ever return control back to the voters. They have too much money to play with and they use it against us.
Poland (and CZ) require only legal permanent residence (over 6 month in country each year, permanent adress, proof of job or business) to get gun license. In both countries you can own most if not all that you can in US (machine guns and silencers stay home). Problem is that you will most probably not get export license to take ypur guns permanently out of USA. US authorites basically use '94 AWB as guide line what is ‘sporting’ and can be exported (including magazines). Also US ITAR regulations will prevent some stuff including some scopes, NV, etc.
Have Poland or CZ been plagued by the Muslim invasion that has plagued places like Germany and Paris?
If so, that coupled with their iffy gun laws, depressed economy and bad winters make these places not so appealing. Slavic languages are also harder to learn than, say, Spanish.
How about Panama? Can we bring our “arsenal” to Panama? No shoveling snow there and they accept the US dollar and many speak English.
I wouldn’t mind living in a Scandinavian country but Switzerland would be my first choice if I could legally immigrate somewhere assuming the US goes full socialist.
The difference between US socialism and their type of socialism is there is actually some benefit to middle class people over there to all the taxes and spending. I was stationed in Germany for 4 years, and had a few guys I knew who married German women and had kids with them. They have all kinds of time off paid during pregnancy, child care paid, I think the education system there makes a lot more sense, ect.
If I have to pay exorbitant taxes I’d at least like to get some benefit back. As it stands now if you’re middle class you get jack shit back here in real benefit until you are old.
Although I’ve not lived I Europe, my impression is that their socialism has worked (so far) simply due to much smaller and more homogeneous populations. The entropy associated with a US population of 300 million makes socialism much more difficult in the US.
However, the European chickens are now coming home to roost as the EU as added immense complexity to the economy. Bottom line, America still has the greenest lawn in the neighborhood.
European socialism has worked a little better because most European countries spend a tiny fraction of their budget on military (especially since 1989 - and that’s 23+ years ago now), vs. our lion’s share.
But most of Europe is fiscally screwed just like we are. The Euro has been an awful experiment, primarily benefiting Germany (with a lower value currency making its exports cheaper) at the expense of most other countries. Only Germany and Finland have really strong and diversified economies (though the northern half of eastern Europe has a fairly bright future). Switzerland has thrived on certain types of banking that are becoming impossible to continue due to political pressure from other nations, particularly its neighbors.
The US maintains its position based on the petrodollar and money printing… all things come to an end. In the financial blogs the US has been called the “cleanest dirty shirt” for a year or two now, and that’s probably a good description. Sometime in the next 1-2 years there will be a major financial downturn and hardly any place will look good. Maybe Svalbard.
Only about 15% of the people there own their own homes.
Half the country speaks German, half speaks French…you’d basically have to learn two new languages.
Taxes are crazy high.
Winters are brutal.
Some people get all hung up over Switzerland, because it is mostly Anglo and because of that outdated NRA article about how some are required to keep their assault rifles in their homes but there are many downsides to Switzerland as well.
I’m planning on a beach house in Costa Rica no matter what. Currently you can carry a shotgun with rounds mounted to the gun in your vehicle, and there was a CC bill on the Presidents’ desk a couple of years ago but I don’t know what happened.
From what I heard from people that went there looking for affordable retirement property, the wealthy Americans have bought up real estate and pushed the prices way up.
This same person found a very affordable place in Panama.
Panama is very modern for a Central American country and is pretty stable. There are tons of US, Brit and Aussie ex-pats living there and English is spoken often there. The US dollar is also accepted in Panama and they have stores like Wal Mart, Home Depot and other American retailers so maybe it will not seem as “foreign.”
From the photos of the place this guy bought for under 100 grand…I’d say their real estate prices are very good.
Don’t know about their gun laws, though.
Looking around on the web, there are many companies in Panama that help American and UK ex-pats move, buy property and find healthcare and other living needs.
No shoveling snow or freezing to death like Europe.
This is true, but I just want a small beach house, nothing special. CR has the most stable democracy in Central America and one of the reasons is a defense agreement with us. I’ve spent 4 weeks there in the past few years, met and keep in touch with a few expats.
We have a WINNER!!! The central banking system is the root of many (if not damn near all) problems in this country. Hear this http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ethos/
