I’m not even kidding. I feel like we’ve arrived at that stage where the half who drank the koolaid are trying to force the other half to drink it, too.
But seriously, am I really the only one who’s starting to get super creeped out by these people? The worst part is I can’t even talk about this with family or friends for fear they’ll be like:
And that’s what I find so creepy about all this is how insistent not only the government is getting, but how incredulous people are at the mere thought that maybe someone would choose not to get it.
It just feels more and more like this has nothing to do with anything besides compliance for its own sake. Just going from the official numbers and information coming from the CDC and foreign health departments, I feel like there’s a lot of room in all this for debate and personal choice. Like this is fifty thousand shades of gray. Just going from the official narrative it seems there’s less legitimate reason to get it, and more legitimate reasons not to get it, than the seasonal flu vaccine. At least we’re pretty sure the flu vaccine works and isn’t hurting people, vs. this thing, all the conspiracy junk aside, that feels like playing Russian roulette. Just seems like it’s failed even in places where it was given the best possible chance of success, and on top of that it seems there are way more than enough reasons now to be overly cautious when it comes to assessing its safety, if for no other reason than the fact it was rushed to market and has zero track record.
You are not the only one, I feel like I’m in bizarro world where things that I know that are objectively true are being called false by a large number of people.
I used to think my dad was a very intelligent and open minded person capable of serious critical thinking but I mentioned some time ago to him about how everything was going down the toilet and how I wished we still had the economy under Trump just before Covid hit, and he blew up on me and said to never mention that name again. Totally boggled my mind. Here I am, months after graduating with a ME degree, having applied to probably around a hundred jobs so far and still nothing, yet I know if I had graduated a year earlier I would have had a job lined up before graduation.
Brother- Ill politely say, if cant cant get a job with an ME degree…you either aint tryin, or you need to get out of whatever one horse town youre in.
Man, degree’d positions are EVERYWHERE.
As to the OP’s question: Youre about 20-25 years behind.
I’m with you OP. I struggle with the amount of people on “the right” that are frothing at the mouth defending this nonsense. This is why I left WA state for WY. People are sucked in by fear and its a very powerful motivator. I question why people are suddenly so scared. We all know we will die someday. It just won’t be from this stupid thing! LOL.
The government is lying about job openings. They get that data by just pulling from the jobs posting sites, so if the same job gets posted to all three major sites it gets counted three times. And on top of that, lots of those jobs posted aren’t even really that serious. They’re just seeing what’s out there. It’s kind of like how your girlfriend has that secret Tinder account where she’s just looking for that next best thing, but she’s already got you really well trained so anyone less than prince charming himself probably isn’t going to motivate her to leave you, and prince charming can do way better and she knows it so he’s not going to apply, but nevertheless she’s going to have some B team dudes waiting in the wings as backup for when you inevitably get tired of her bullshit and dump her ass. Like she might even interview some of them behind your back and give them every indication there’s a position to fill, for which they’re in the running, but she knows she’s just playing with them as long as you’re around and willing to pander to her.
And of the jobs that are actually available in a non hypothetical sense, the employers want to take them overseas. They just post them for appearances to make it seem like maybe they kind of want to hire an American sort of. Like if the job description is bending over backwards and Gumby applies he might get it, if HR will sign off on it.
But yea, if you look at the labor participation rate those numbers are far more honest. If you break it down into age groups, the only jobs that actually recovered are the entry level minimum wage jobs in the services industry. Hardly anyone is hiring skilled and white collar right now.
Best of luck to you, man, I hope you find something soon. I’m in no way trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite actually. More like just want to tell you the truth so you don’t have any delusions like pretty much everyone else your age. They all think there are all these jobs out there and that they are the actual shit itself, like employers are just going to come running to them begging them to work for a salary ten years ahead of their tenure. Hopefully when all these morons walk off their jobs for the great resignation this fall you’ll be able to get one of them.
My son is figuring that out currently with his degree. His douchebag mom (and the school) brainwashed him into thinking he would instantly have a 200k per year job as soon as he graduated and uhh, No.
Tried to tell him several times that is not the way it works and he would just get angry with me. Now that he is experiencing exactly what I warned him about WHILE he gets to pay back all those student loans and he is starting to come to believe the same thing I have said about his mom for years. (that she is an idiot)
@rero360 - you want an engineering job? I gots the hookup. I work for the worlds largest food and pharmaceutical grade packaging company. We have dozens of unfilled engineering positions, both at the plant level and corporate project engineering, which is where I happen to work out of. Remotely. For excellent pay and bennies.
PM me and I will send you a link to our job vacancy page. Only caveat is you have to use my name in the referral process so I get my cut of the recruiting fee.
I studied psychology in college. By and large I think the field is a bunch of tripe, but I did learn a few useful things. Like the powerful need to conform suffered by a significant portion of the population. It helped me realize early on that there are a whole lot of easily suggestible and weak-willed people out there, and the importance of being able to trust your own judgement. Stick to your guns, you’re not alone though it may sometimes feel that way.
Google the Asch conformity experiment for some eye-opening reading material.
Just like Y-chromosome “women” and 39 genders or any of the other nonsense group-think that’s been building to a crescendo for the last decade at least.
I haven’t thought about it in terms of johnstown but that is exactly how it feels. My wife and I are self described conspiracy theorist and have always felt like we were weird in others eyes(which we don’t care by the way), but now we feel like the only sane people on the planet. Its strange. It feels like the world is in a cult and we are the only ones who can see it.
Plenty of jobs never went away so there is nothing to ‘recover’ from. Many of those same jobs are booming right now and can’t find enough help for squat.
I personally never missed a single day due to this scamdemic crap. More work than I can handle for a good few years out at least…
Carpenters, electricians, plumbers, Auto/diesel mechanics, truck drivers, etc… Damn good money to be made and easy as pie to get your foot in the door most anywhere making a good bit more than min wage.
Guy that delivered some materials for us a few days ago was a new driver / new employee to that company. That company hired him out of a half-way house and paid for his truck driving school, paid his room and board while he went to the school, paying his phone bill then and now as well + paying him a pretty fair salary now that he is actually working… Not bad considering where he was vs what he has going for him now.
I like that driver. Guy has balls. He did not budge when he stepped inside the shop and the Dober girls ran up to him all puffed up and barking at him. Guy just sort of looked down at them when they got up to him and said in a friendly tone ‘Whats up yall?’. Girls instantly took a liking to him (as I did).
We recently hired on a semi-retired long time friend of mine. He was asking me what sort of hours we kept / what sort of hours he needed to keep and I told him right quick, ‘Dude, here are the keys to the shop - You set your own hours and work when you damn well please. Damn glad to have you here and appreciate any time you do have to help out’.
Just had this discussion over our meal tonight. Makes you wonder if you have lost your mind or almost everyone else has. The level of irrational hostility is unsettling to say the least. You are not the only one who feels that way for sure.
Also feels like they are in a mad rush to get the jab into as many as possible as fast as possible.
Just remember how bad it was in this country just before and during the civil war…it was really bad and divided, which led to some biblical level slaughter. Might give you some perspective. Things aren’t great, but we’re still pretty free.
Keep your head up. I graduated college in 2007 and it was bleak. Then the world was ending with the Obama New World Order FEMA death camps.
Things are pretty shitty right now, but they also were back in 2007/8 when I was entering the real world.
My advice would be - don’t feel like any job is beneath you, and always live well below your means. You’ll figure out how to get by and, if you have the drive, how to find something and excel at it.
I graduated with a political science degree in 2007 with plans to go to law school. Then I worked for a while as a construction laborer, then an entry level corporate recruiting job. I ended up as part owner of a telecom construction company, and we just sold out this year. Be agile and frugal, and don’t get sucked into too much AM talk radio.
I’m in Los Angeles, I work in the National Guard with people who work for Lockheed and Northrop Grumman and have passed on my resume to them and so far have had just a few phone interviews. 21 years in the Guard, currently a 1SG almost done with SGM academy active secret clearance, did an internship years back as a CNC machinist, did an internship last summer as a ME, knowledgeable in GD&T, SolidWorks, FEA, CFD, and much more.
I did a phone interview with one company and they decided to not hire me because I was still in the guard and they didn’t want to lose me to a deployment or long drill weekends. Another company, I interviewed with the day before leaving for 42 days to Japan for the Guard, was totally upfront about it, they seemed cool and I let them know when I was back as requested but they didn’t pick me. I’m truly scratching my head as I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Every time I have interviewed for a position in person I get the job, ****ing Covid has really put a hamper on that for me.
I’ll add that during my most recent interview I was asked why I was applying for an entry level position and not something in management given my 17 years of management experience in the guard. I replied by saying that why I intend on being in management in around 5 years, I wanted actual engineering experience before I felt comfortable managing other engineers. The manager was surprised by that answer, I think in a good way. We shall see, I should be hearing back from him any day now.
