Silencer Shop, Dead Air and Gemtech have been working with the BATF to update and streamline the Form 4 process
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/18/nfa-process-modernized/
Silencer Shop has been the main force behind this. They hope it will cut approval time down to a couple three months.
I hope they do something. It’s coming up on a year and I want my SBR
Wasn’t it 6 months several years ago? What happened? I’ve been thinking about getting a suppressor.
Sounds like progress
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41 F, Obama, and Hillary happened
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Transfer times are dropping fast. It looks like they got past the 41F hump recently and times are dropping fast. My 2/17 form 1 individual submission is trending towards 220 days or so.
http://www.nfatracker.com/nfa-transfer-time-tracking/
ETA: I called them because I didn’t fill some stuff out on my FP card and they said right before 41F, they were getting about 10-12 THOUSAND forms per day vs their normal 1-3 thousand. If anything, I think their times are pretty good considering past waittimes of 180-360 days when things were “normal”.
There is no reason beyond .gov incompetents why these forms can’t be turned around inside the time it takes your check to clear.
I got those emails too. I don’t understand what the bar code does that filling out an online form didn’t do.
If scanning he barcode places the info where it needs to be, why didn’t filling out an online form do so as well. Also why just an F4? why not F1s as well?
I mean bar code is old tech and pretty easy to do on either end. They must be doing something else with the data. Maybe verifying addresses or such through a government database? Checking for typos, wrong addresses, zip codes, etc…
They say it -can’t- make a mistake. I just don’t get how it’s design is better than eFile. I mean I 'm glad if it is, I just don’t get how it can be.
If there was this much public demand for something it would be solved or rendered legal right away.
It should only take days.
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It should be instant. All they do is run you thru NICS, the same system your FFL uses to sell you a gun. It usually takes seconds to get a Proceed result.
So is this a big deal or no?
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It’s better than eFile, because government isn’t managing it. It’s efficient, quick, inexpensive, and accurate. I’m curious as to why only F4s, and not F1s as well.
I think it’s a big deal, as it takes away the excuses for why it takes time to process forms… and should speed the process for all.
I’ve been using Silencer Shops on-line Form 1 service, and I can tell you it’s faster and better than eFile ever was, but they don’t have this bar code system. I can drop a form 1 start to finish in about 3 minutes now that I’m in their system.
SilencerShop says they are working on barcode for form 1s too.
They said a big part of the backlog at the ATF is inputting all the arriving forms.
I found the comments section on SilencerShop page helpful.
https://blog.silencershop.com/f4-barcode-system-approved-by-atf
One of my Eform Form 1’s took something like 3 weeks a few years ago. I’m currently 11 months into the wait on another Form 1… sigh.
I took got the emails and didn’t know what to make of them. I’d love to see the approval process taking 2-3 months.
Good vid from The Gun Collective explaining this.
Got to talk to Mike Pappas about it today at an ASA Demo event. They’re definitely pretty excited about it.
This is just going to be expensive then… In a good way.
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Anyone have an idea when this new process will be up and running?
It already is. They have been doing it silently.
I received this email today from Capital Armory:
http://www.capitolarmory.com/blog/what-is-the-atf-bar-code-system.html
It goes into more depth about the new process. And here is their Reader’s Digest version:
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THE BOTTOM LINE
We are thrilled with any improvement or increased efficiency at the ATF, and we are happy to implement bar codes on our forms to help in any way we can. However, what has been communicated through recent press releases is the bar code system will result in faster approval of forms, which is just wishful thinking at this point. Eliminating 60 seconds of time per form for data entry personnel does not correlate to faster approval time frames for the legal examiners who actually approve the forms. Any speculation of reduced wait times due to implementing the bar code system is purely a guess at this point, and no person, dealer, distributor, or manufacturer knows how the ATF will allocate their resources if they require less data entry staff due to the bar codes. Faster approval times on forms would be great for everyone in the industry and we definitely hope wait times will decrease, but as of now, we have no evidence this will occur simply due to implementing a bar code system. [/i]
Capitol Armory are solid people. They are members here, and I’ve bought a bunch of cans from them with zero drama.
Well that was soul crushing…
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