Any suggestions, pro’s-con’s, and advice are appreciated:
I have 2 guns narrowed down(subject to change), both in .308, both bolt. I’m also a lefty so any “user friendly” info would help. Money is no huge issue. YES, I have plans for some of the McMillan courses.
McMillan Tac-308
http://www.mcmfamily.com/rifles.html
Accuracy International AWP
What do you guys think?
TIA,
Dave
I do not believe any AWP’s come in lefty configuration…if thats a deal breaker or not I am not sure…
Have you considered contacting one of the independent shops like GAP/Terry Cross/R&D Precision/KMW?
They could build you a HELL of a lefty rig relatively quickly, and for half the price of an AWP
Honestly, I don’t mind shooting right-handed bolt guns as a lefty. I can also shoot right handed, not as well, but I can still hold 2" groups at 100m.
I’m not familiar with the smaller custom shops out there at all. But would probably be interested. I’m really interested in the bolt guns with the folding stock- makes certain forms of transport much easier.
got ya…
Folding stock, roger…
So with that information…AICS (similar chassis system to the AWP uses) allow the barreled actions to be dropped right in…
I believe one of the AICS 2.0 versions is a folding stock version…so that would allow you to get that portability you were looking for.
If money is no object, then get the AWP but be prepared to wait our to scour the boards for one, they only import so many each quarter…
I believe McMillan has a new folding stock that looks very functional…Maybe I wouldn’t have to wait as long??
Ohh I haven’t heard/seen that…
Just looked it up, seems like a nice conversion…but it states “soon to be available” per their website…so Id check that detail with McMillan
It seems their stock rifle is just under $4000
do you already have optics to go on it?
No optic yet, but I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a Leupold Mark 4, 4-12X. I don’t know if an S&B is worth over double what a Leupold is(?)…
I’ll probably go with Badger Rings- I think McMillan uses Badger Bases, but I could be wrong.
Like I said- I’m more so just trying to figure out what I want/need. I won’t be state-side for a few months so ordering something isn’t a big deal.
If you have time and money, I say call TACPRO and get in line for an AI-AWP and order a USO/S&B and call it a day;)
That was probably what was going to happen anyway…If you can’t decide, buy the most expensive:D
they pop up once in awhile over on SnipersHide.Com so keep your eye open there…lots of good info too
I would give Surgeon Rifles a look.
Im going to touch on this since noone else has, You stated you didnt mind shooting right handed but you dont do it as well, but can hold 2 inch groups at 100m…Why pay for a gun capable of 1/4 MOA if you can only shoot 2 MOA???
I would opt and go for a lefty to get the full potential of the gun.
Rob
I apologize for not making myself clear. I don’t mind shooting any right-handed guns, I’ve had to do it my whole life. I practice shooting left, and right handed as many people do. I’m not saying I would only shoot a right-handed rifle right handed. I meant, I didn’t mind shooting a right-handed bolt gun as a lefty. I probably can’t shoot 1/4 MOA but I can shoot MOA or a little better left-handed. There is always room for improvement; if I buy a gun that I know can perform beyond my skills than I will never have to 2nd guess my skill…IMHO.
I’m always open to advice- thanks for all the input
I will do that Sir- Is that the company that uses the Rem 700 action with the picatinny rail machined onto the top of the receiver?
i believe they machine the entire action inhouse with the built in 20moa rail…they do not use the rem 700 action
I HIGHLY recommend getting in touch with George Gardner at www.gaprecision.net
I own both a “Rock” and AR10 built by his shop and have nothing but praise for both sticks and their work at his shop.
The Surgeon actions are quite impressive as well.
I have 870 rounds through my Surgeon, and I can’t think of a better gun for the money. Since you are a lefty, I would put it in a AICS to be able to work the bolt without moving your grip hand.
For glass, look at the USO or S&B. The leupold has good glass, but the features aren’t ideal (IMO).
Ya might also look at the Tac Ops rifles, All the GAP, Surgeon, and Tac-ops rifles all have .25 moa accuracy Guarantee’s if I am not mistaking… There’s gonna be some wait time involved in any of those…
ETA: Ya might also check the classifides on snipershide.com, snipersparadise.com, snipercentral.com… I see quite a few $4K precision rifles on those boards for sale frequently…J.
Most folks know me as a NV dude and I never really speak about my past experiences with precision rifles. I am an ex LE guy/sniper type and in 1994 I purchased (my own funds) an AWC M92 .308 platform with a 22" Krieger and McMillian A2 stock). Lynn McWilliams still owns the AWC Systems Technology company out of Arizona. I have not purchased precision rifles from any where else over the years, due to their systems work, and work VERY well. This specific M92 in .308 I have now logged 12,260+ (ALL RECORDERD CLEANED EVERY 10 rounds) is FINALLY in need of a rebarrel with the Kreiger. My groups have finally opened up to 1"! 
Most folks do not know or talk much about AWC except for their fine supressors. Give them a shout and some consideration, they are serious about their rifle builds and IMHO the best kept sectret out there. Hope this helps.
Vic
GA Precision or KMV can build you whatever you like…
I believe they can both get the AICS chassis or the McM folders.