I absolutely love my Geissele triggers and really everything Geissele. I’m a huge trigger snob, so today I’m at work sitting in my 2nd office watching YouTube and I watch a trigger comparison video with data and graphs. Well to my surprise my beloved Geissele triggers didn’t come out on top and a lot of trigger companies I’ve never even heard of are leading it…
So, is Geissele old news and should I move onto dare I say, better triggers?!
No.
However, it’s your money, do what you want.
I will only buy G triggers until they no longer exist.
Move on for sure. You should always move on from anything “beloved” at the recommendation of a YT video. Reply sent from offices 1-9. In the end, just make sure the latest and greatest doesn’t make you look fat.
I certainly don’t want to move on from Geissele but if there are better triggers out there I’m not married to them either. I’ve been planning on trying out the SSP next.
There are some good options however, with regard to triggers, G is the gold standard. I have a Larue and a Centurion that both are good $100 triggers. So if you only have limited cash there are good options. But G owns this market space.
What companies did the you tube peeps tout?
PB
What were the criteria? I can’t imaging any triggers outperforming G in durability and longevity.
Historically… making a fast trigger wasn’t all that hard. But making one that didn’t break or malfunction over time was the real trick.
This. Do I want a trigger that’s objectively 12% “better”, or do I want a trigger that’s as good as I can subjectively discern, that I know won’t fail when I need it most?
By what standard were they judged? Pull weight? Looks? What makes Geissele so good is the build quality. Any ass hat can produce a trigger that looks and subjectively feels good, but I’m more concerned with safety, reliability and durability. But you do you.
The main ones that got better numbers than Geissele were
https://risearmament.com/product/rise-armament-ra-535-trigger/
and
https://triggertech.com/products/ar?variant=31600313368694
When I actually looked them up I saw they, like Geissele, were also $200+ triggers. I have a hard time putting $200 towards any trigger except a Geissele. But like I said, maybe I’ve been under a rock and there are better options.
LaRue MBT is made from plate S7 tool steel. Geissele are cast, aren’t they? Plate should have the edge all else being equal.
Not sure about the specifics on any of the triggers metal specs.
Neither come close to the G-triggers in terms of proven combat reliability. Not all, but many I’ve seen, use cassette triggers because they are too lazy and/or too lame to install a standard style trigger. I’ll stick with Geissele for my go to triggers, if I want to save some coin and still go with a quality 2 stage trigger it would be a Centurion AST, my budget build triggers are ALG ACT, BCM PNT or SIONICS EMST.
Yea I’ll be sticking with Geissele too.
As far as the Centurion AST, why would you go with that over the ACT? https://algdefense.com/alg-combat-trigger-act.html
They are two different triggers. The AST is a 2-stage about 85-90% of a Geissele, an ACT (and the other two I list above) are cleaned-up milspec single stage trigger with a fancy coating.
Should I get a new trigger to replace my current trigger, which is the gold standard of triggers, because someone on YouTube said I should? And oh yeah! There were some graphs… and there was some data!
This is just wild to me…
Good to know! I didn’t even know Centurion offered triggers to be honest. I’ll pick one up right now to drop into my 5x 14.5 build. I need to order a barrel from them anyways.
The ACT is a Schmid single stage, I beleive the AST is a two-stage of Schmid origin.
As far as durabilty goes, G is not the only durable trigger out there. It has long been speculated that they get their castings from Schmid. I absolutely know that ALG (Geissele) do. There are several other Schmid two-stage triggers on the market, one of which I put over 10k rds on a year or two ago, largely in a PCC, and its still going. G might be the most proven two-stage final product, though.
I’m not aware of MBTs shitting the bed.
In trigger feel, the Triggertech (non-adjustable) is very, very nice. Much better than a SSA, or even SSA-E. I’d also prefer it over a S3G, or SSA-X. Think 1911. However, the way it retains its pins is not as confidence-inspiring as a SSA. Certainly good enough for home-D or match shooting, but I’d be concerned that they would walk in some other uses. That’s only speculation. I’ve got several thousand rounds on mine with no issues, including in a PCC.
Some cassette-style triggers have a more confidence-inspiring method of retaining pins. The Wilson Combat TTUs use a detent spring, more like “mil-spec” ones. I’ve got tens of thousands of rounds on mine, with one trip back to the factory, and a buddy has several thousand on his.
I know nothing about Rise.
I wouldn’t change out a G trigger that I like for any of these unless I was in a tinkering mood. Its a perfectly good trigger.
Its definitely nice to see new options in the gun market, especially for better prices. That being said, i don’t think you should replace your Geissele at all. They just work and are very proven and reliable.
Now, i do run Larue MBTs, Timney, CMC, Rise, and other triggers as well, and have never had an issue with any of them. I’m especially impressed with the Larue MBT for the price, and i’ve heard nothing but good things about the Centurion triggers for the price. BUT, at the end of the day, my 3 main go-to rifles all have Geissele SSA-E triggers.
We’re running one of the Centurion triggers every weekend now. It’s doing great. The reset is a little lighter than I’m used to, but no issues with reliability. The ACT is really no better (or not noticeably better) than standard USGI… at least the one I have.
Is the centurion trigger just another rebranded Schmid? My MSR10 came with a schmid from the factory and that has broken in to be a very nice precision trigger.
I personally own a G2S, Larue MBT2, and schmid; and I won’t buy a trigger to necessarily replace any of them, but in the future the only trigger I will buy is the Larue. Its middle price and honestly the nicest if I’m doing a blind trigger comparison.