If you like your internet, you can keep your internet.

No, seriously.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-10/if-you-your-internet-obama-calls-regulation-keep-internet-open

Major part of the WH statement:

An open Internet is essential to the American economy, and increasingly to our very way of life. By lowering the cost of launching a new idea, igniting new political movements, and bringing communities closer together, it has been one of the most significant democratizing influences the world has ever known.

“Net neutrality” has been built into the fabric of the Internet since its creation — but it is also a principle that we cannot take for granted. We cannot allow Internet service providers (ISPs) to restrict the best access or to pick winners and losers in the online marketplace for services and ideas. That is why today, I am asking the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to answer the call of almost 4 million public comments, and implement the strongest possible rules to protect net neutrality.

When I was a candidate for this office, I made clear my commitment to a free and open Internet, and my commitment remains as strong as ever. Four years ago, the FCC tried to implement rules that would protect net neutrality with little to no impact on the telecommunications companies that make important investments in our economy. After the rules were challenged, the court reviewing the rules agreed with the FCC that net neutrality was essential for preserving an environment that encourages new investment in the network, new online services and content, and everything else that makes up the Internet as we now know it. Unfortunately, the court ultimately struck down the rules — not because it disagreed with the need to protect net neutrality, but because it believed the FCC had taken the wrong legal approach.

The FCC is an independent agency, and ultimately this decision is theirs alone. I believe the FCC should create a new set of rules protecting net neutrality and ensuring that neither the cable company nor the phone company will be able to act as a gatekeeper, restricting what you can do or see online. The rules I am asking for are simple, common-sense steps that reflect the Internet you and I use every day, and that some ISPs already observe. These bright-line rules include:

No blocking. If a consumer requests access to a website or service, and the content is legal, your ISP should not be permitted to block it. That way, every player — not just those commercially affiliated with an ISP — gets a fair shot at your business.
No throttling. Nor should ISPs be able to intentionally slow down some content or speed up others — through a process often called “throttling” — based on the type of service or your ISP’s preferences.
Increased transparency. The connection between consumers and ISPs — the so-called “last mile” — is not the only place some sites might get special treatment. So, I am also asking the FCC to make full use of the transparency authorities the court recently upheld, and if necessary to apply net neutrality rules to points of interconnection between the ISP and the rest of the Internet.
No paid prioritization. Simply put: No service should be stuck in a “slow lane” because it does not pay a fee. That kind of gatekeeping would undermine the level playing field essential to the Internet’s growth. So, as I have before, I am asking for an explicit ban on paid prioritization and any other restriction that has a similar effect.

If carefully designed, these rules should not create any undue burden for ISPs, and can have clear, monitored exceptions for reasonable network management and for specialized services such as dedicated, mission-critical networks serving a hospital. But combined, these rules mean everything for preserving the Internet’s openness.

If you take this at face value, it sounds pretty good. But I don’t take it at face value. People are already deciphering how this will be used to censor, tax and/or regulate speech on the internet. It seems all but certain that is, somehow, the intent here. I hope I’m wrong.

Obama is NOT the person I want regulating my internet.

The man is certifiably insane

The Internet was better when the geeks ran it.

I like what he is saying, but he needs to prove he isn’t filth.

I’m sure we will get to read what it is after its implemented. But I have a feeling the neutrality he wants isn’t what we have in mind.

NN FTW.

I have a feeling that just because Obama said it, no one will want net neutrality now.

What he is preaching is actually, for once a good idea (holy sh*t, I know). It’s not his idea. It is what most people in the know have been wanting for a while.

Take a minute to read up on this net neutrality thing. The FCC has been ignoring tens of thousands of comments on their feedback page ignoring the demand to make ISPs utilities. The head of the FCC (yes, appointed by Obama) is a former telecommunications CEO. He has a vested interest in making internet fast lanes a real thing to potentially line his own pockets. Net Neutrality laws COULD stop that from happening.

While I dislike him as much as anyone else, IF (that’s a big if) Obama actually does this, it will be a win for internet users.

However, i’m skeptical. Realllllly skeptical.

Well Barry has single handedly ****ed up everything from health care to the Border Patrol, why not Al Gore’s gift to the world too?

It’s a suck idea and I’ll tell you why.

AT&T, Comcast and DishWhatever might have various levels of incompetence and shitty plans but at least they are SERVICES competing for your business.

This is not the situation with a utility which in effect is a monopoly. I’m old enough to remember when AT&T was a utility and not one of many service providers, lots of problems.

When was the last time anyone offered you an alternative to your local water, power or garbage “service provider”?

If the internet becomes a “utility” it will be regulated to a standard and there will be on option B. And it won’t be superior than what you can just pay for now. The FSA who pays for shit service will get a better deal at your expense…again.

All those Obamaphones now need unlimited talk, text and internet…Obama wants everyone else to pay for it.

This post is so full of WTF I don’t know where to start.

There is no competition in the US. Comcast is lobbying that the LACK of competition is the reason they can buy out TWC. Not sure where you get there is competition here.

These companies had no problem building out their network as a Title 2 utility which allows them access to public right of ways.

When was the last time I got a competitive alternative? Comcast’s main lobbying effort is that TWC doesn’t compete with them.

Deregulate the Comcast and TWC merger then the Feds better nullify all local laws and allow municipal networks, and deny all subsidies and demand all money back they have received in the last 3 decades. They must pay all current right of ways a past due balance for 2 decades at minimum, and the ISP’s are on their own in the future. Meaning no more piggy backing and if a landowner refuses a right of way then tough shit. No more hiding behind public utility rules. Pay or go around with zero recourse.

If the ISP’s want to get the benefits of private corporations then no more public funds or benefits. Let them pay fair market values for ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS they enjoy, and back pack pay all land owners. They can also be subject to anti-trust laws, and be broken up.

The struggle between private business seeking to monopolize markets and the public sector seeking to regulate those same markets is nothing new and has always been a process akin to making sausage. It’s a balancing act and those who insist on leaning too far in favor of either position inevitably overturn the boat.

When I was in college - in the deep mountains of NC - in the late '80’s/early '90’s - we had the crappiest cable company in the world; 24 basic channels - 3 of which were country music video channels :bad: - and NO FOX! When you called the provider, they offered one of two excuses - “We’d hafta put anuther satellite dish up on a ridge to get that.” Or, “Well, FOX has that Simpsons, and Married with Children, & them shows jest don’t reflect good Jackson Co. val - yews”… to which I replied, “Yeah - and the couple of channels you DO show, have actors with good teeth - and that doesn’t reflect 'Jackson Co. VAL - yews either apparently… but you still SHOW them” - a response they NEVER cared for… :rolleyes:

So when the cable deregulation bill was making it’s way through CON-gress in 1990, I thought it a GOOD thing, since we had such craptacular cable there in Podunk, NC… I was only 23 at the time though, and didn’t realize JUST yet, that gummint’s main purpose, is to figure out new & innovative ways to screw up a free cup of coffee. :neo:

Having since LEARNED that lesson, and knowing that the ‘Obama touch’ instantly turns gold into fertilizer, I’d prefer this - and EVERY - administration, not try & mess with net neutrality. Because if they do, the one thing GUARANTEED to result from it, will be a thousand-fold increase, in the number of people using Ham radio…

Which is closely regulated by the FCC. :wink:

We like your freedoms so much we are willing to control them for you !

Well there is some competition. In fact I dumped DishNetwork for another ISP provider and got better service for less money.

If you don’t understand the difference between services and utilities then I can’t help you.

This X infinity.

If the federal government we have today is sticking their finger in the lie, you can bet there will be three outcomes. The .gov will gain more control, big business will gain more profit and the citizen/consumer will foot the greater burden they create. :frowning:

Karl Denninger (Market-Ticker) has some comments on why this will be a bad thing. Being a conservative/libertarian who started and ran an ISP in the '90’s, he should have some idea what he’s talking about.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229585

I would argue with Mr. Denninger that we as consumers are already being screwed.

Did anyone else notice the ridiculous irony of Obama talking about this while he is in China ? Internet in China is totally controlled and run by the state. It is regulated, censored, and monitored by the governmanet, just what we need here don’t you think ?

S.M.

Yeah… THAT would suck…