Chronographed 10 rds from my Beretta 92X Centurion in about 80 degree weather.
Averaged 924 fps.
Other ammo tested like it normally does from this gun. This barrel does tend to read slower than other guns. Is that a Beretta 92 thing?
I really got this ammo to try in an AP-5P and AP-5. I hope it runs a little faster from them.
The same day I had 160 gr .38 special coming out of a 3 inch barrel at about the same speed.
Odd. I’m just a Gold Dot across the board. I don’t put too much thought into Pistol ammo other than bullet weight for the caliber. And even then, I don’t dig too deep like the ballistic forum nut bags.
That’s a little slow but not far off. Maybe a combo of production variation and your slow barrel. Or your chrono.
Call Hornady with your lot# and ask what they think.
There are two Hornady 135 grain Critical Duty Rounds:
Item #90236 Standard velocity Listed @ 1010 FPS from a 4" barrel.
Item #90226 +P Velocity @ 1110 FPS from a 4" barrel
I use Hornady Critical Duty myself, but the 124Gr. +P version Item #90216. I’ve chrono’ed it 1172 FPS from my G19 and 1136 FPS from my G43X
Same. The GDs have always been accurate and a “Bonded Bullet” just makes sense for a SD round.
Is there some velocity / expansion minimum for that bullet you are concerned about, or just generally want more?
Seems like its 100 fps short. Even at advertised velocity I’ve seen a couple reports of it not expanding. (In clear gel)
I’m concerned it won’t expand at this velocity.
Hopefully it leaves the Mp5 patter guns with a little more gusto. I spared them the +p version to avoid extra wear.
I’ll keep carrying the Underwood 68 gr +P LeHigh in the M92X with a backup mag of 124 gr Gold Dot +P.
Does seem a little slow to me as well. I have a variety of Gold dots and Critical D ammo. Since Mark obsesses over handgun ballistics, I guess we should chrono several loads and just skip shooting the new Tikka Tx3 this Saturday.
In all seriousness, I am curious how Horndog HD ammo is running the same as my 147gr range ammo. Ok, we will shoot out of the Stacatto 4.4 inch barrel. Ron, was yours plus P+ variety?
PB
Seems a little slow. I never chrono’d it, but I got a bunch of this like a year ago. Seemed slightly light, like much of Hornady’s not+P duty-oriented ammo. An assumption about its velocity was made, and some friends and I started shooting it suppressed with G19s. We quickly realized that much of it was supersonic and loud as hell.
Correction: the stuff we were shooting was a training round, and is thus irrelevant to this convo.
Mine is the standard pressure stuff.
Makes sense then, because the 135+P writes 1,110fps “On box”.
50 yards 1038 fps
100 yards 983
PB
Still learning.
I’ve learned that Beretta’s typically have generous bore diameters. The purpose is often guessed that it’s to reduce pressures for longevity and increase reliability with low-quality ammo.
I found lots of guys using cast .358 dia. bullets. So, get the right shaped bullet and fire it from your .38’s, .357’s, and some 9x19’s.
And yes, I found other chronograph tests reporting sluggish velocities compared to other standard-design bores of similar length.
I measured the groove dia of my pistol and found it was .365.
I pulled and measured a Critical Duty bullet and as expected got .355.
Interesting.
This ammo averaged just under 1100 fps from my AP5P.
My Beretta had an oversized bore (grooves) apparently. It shoots everything slower than comparable-length barrels. This one more than others.
However, it shoots accurately from both guns. 4-inch 5-shot groups free-hand at 25 yds with irons from the Beretta Centurion 4.25 in. I didn’t measure groups from the RDS-equipped AP5P but they were considerably tighter.