HK P30"S" Anyone shoot one yet?

General Firearms Handguns - Semi Auto
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After seeing Ken Lunde’s pics of the recently released HK P30S: (Frame mounted, non-decocking, ambi manual thumb safety with rear mounted de-cocking push-button), It has my interest piqued.

Basically it can be carried “Cocked & Locked” without the likely hood of de-cocking it during your presentation via inadvertently pushing the safety/de-cock lever all the way down. It instead has the rear mounted de-cocking button mounted on the rear face of the frame next to the hammer. I think it is the “V3” version?

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Im interested in anyone who has experience with this specific trigger configurations impressions.

I dont want to hear about guys who carry the standard da/sa P30 cocked & locked who say they havent had any issue de-cocking the hammer when switching off the safety. I have tried on a co-workers P30 and it is pretty easy for me to push the safety lever all the way down and de-cock it while riding the safety during shooting.

I want to know how the single action trigger is on this new P30S. Thanks in advance.

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Same here. The standard DA/SA P30 trigger is damn horrible with one of the worst resets I’ve felt in recent memory.

Worse than old school P-Series SIG’s.

FN has a nicer reset and single action pull in their FNP/X line. HK could learn something

P30 still has the nicest grip in the business

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I have a V3 and a V1. I plan on selling my V3 soon to pay for an MR556 if that’s any indication of which one I prefer.

I hear people complain a lot about the DA pull on the V3, but it’s actually not bad at all in my opinion. The SA pull, however, is nothing to write home about. There’s a lot of pre-travel before the break, and the reset is long as balls. The light LEM (V1) for some reason feels like the reset isn’t as long, but that might just be my imagination.

In any event, if you’re looking for something to simulate a 1911, than I think going cocked and locked on a V3 will leave you very disappointed. The light, consistent trigger of the V1 is outstanding and is the one I recommend to people. Your milage may vary.

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Thats exactly how I was considering carrying a V3 if I got my hands on one. Your input is greatly appreciated and may likely save me from spending a whole bunch of money on a new pistol platform that isn’t what I expected it to be. Thanks.

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I’m still less than clear on the preferred variant here, and I suppose that is the primary reason I haven’t invested in a P30 series pistol. Where is one likely to find a competent breakdown on “the real deal” with respect to what you stand to gain or lose by going with a particular version or combination of parts from various configurations?

AC

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Sorry, but this is not possible. Standard P30 does not have thumb safety so you can not do, what you described. This can be done (accidental de-cocking) on some versions of USP/USPc triggers, but never in P30. Also standard P30 in SA/DA (V3) can not be carried c&l. It only can be de-cocked by push button on rear of frame.

P30S is only P30 version with safety. And no, you can not de-cock P30S by riding safety, de-cocking is done by intentionally pushing button on back of frame. Also note that only version of P30S that is SA/DA is P30S V3

BTW Triggers on P30S are basically same (pull weight and feel) than on P30 only… P30S has slightly longer reset than P30. Given that P30 is not of shortest reset guns (quite contrary) it’s not big issue, but worth mentioning.

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I would be very interested in a P-30S with the long barrel since I like my standard DA/SA de-cocker version very much. I very much doubt the reset will be significantly better, but I have adapted to it quite well. Keep in mind I like my old Beretta 92 also. Very, very interested, I would use it in competition in the SA mode.

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Definitely try to handle one - even if you can’t shoot it - before buying. I’ve handled it a bit, and I wasn’t sure if safety is conducive to a thumb placement. I kind of figured out how I would’ve tried to run it had I bought it, but it wasn’t exactly the same was I’d run a 1911.

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So…let me get this straight.

The P30S has a DIFFERENT trigger feel than a normal V3 p30?

Why the decision to go that route?

Also, does anyone know if the P30S will be available in LEM flavor, specifically V1 in 9mm?

If not, could one theoretically convert the P30S to LEM with the addition of factory parts? Ive heard that you can conver the standard V3 P30 to LEM but there will be a hole by the hammer where the decocker used to sit.

Im very interested in working a P30 this year but i would very much prefer an LEM variant with a thumb safety as i carry AIWB and the second level of security makes me feel a heck of a lot safer (my manhood thanks me as well).

Hopefully someone has answers to this question as i was unable to turn anything up on HKPro.com

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No. Feel is same. Reset is technically longer, but you will notice it only if you will look for it and have P30 V3 and P30S V3 side to side to compare.

Why the decision to go that route?

HK needed to change geometry of firing pin safety lever slightly to let it work with safety.

Also, does anyone know if the P30S will be available in LEM flavor, specifically V1 in 9mm?

Technically yes. This is one of versions available from factory. However I doubt that HK USA will order another shipment of P30S with LEM (first batch that came to USA was made by mistake)

If not, could one theoretically convert the P30S to LEM with the addition of factory parts? Ive heard that you can conver the standard V3 P30 to LEM but there will be a hole by the hammer where the decocker used to sit.

You can, using same parts as for P30 - LEM hammer, LEM cocking piece, LEM hammer tension spring. If you will not replace sear for LEM sear, then de-cocking button will remain in place (like in V0 LEM). If you will replace it, small 1.5x10mm slot will be visible left to the hammer. This slot do not affect function, neither it allows more lint to come inside that it already can around hammer (I carry CCW with this slot open, I know first hand).

Im very interested in working a P30 this year but i would very much prefer an LEM variant with a thumb safety as i carry AIWB and the second level of security makes me feel a heck of a lot safer (my manhood thanks me as well).

I carry AIWB as well, with LEM. No additional safety, I just keep finger off the trigger and thumb over (it moves naturally ther to clear body) hammer during reholstering. Works good for my manhood and I do not rely on safety that I can forget to use.

Hopefully someone has answers to this question as i was unable to turn anything up on HKPro.com

Probably you were not asking right question or be patient enough for how search works on HKPro (I do not like search function there as well).

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IIRC Gtmtnbiker mentioned that future versions of the P30 will primarily become P30Ss

RE: What’s Available

As of right now, AFAIK, the P30S’s exist in

P30S V3 9mm & .40 S&W
P30LS LEM–limited run from a ‘screw-up.’

I have a P30S 9mm V3 waiting for me at my gun shop. I’ll post a range report as well as a comparison to my G19 in the coming weeks.

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Looking at the pics. One of things I like about my P-30 is the clean surface at the rear of the pistol, they put the decocker on the back. This allows me to get a very high grip, might the safety lever interfere with the thumb knuckle? I’ll have to handle one first.

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Montrala,

Thank you for the response, it is appreciated.

The search function over there just wasnt yielding the results, after a couple hours sifting through the posts that were coming up i gave up. :slight_smile:

You answered my question very well so again, thank you!

Two more questions if you dont mind.

  1. The P30S LEM’s that were brought into the country were the L versions correct?

  2. As it currently stands are there any P30S’s in the states in 9mm or is this something that is coming in 2011? I have only personally handled a .40 in the S flavor.

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The P30S 9mm V3s are of limited supply right now. Nelson Tactical gets one in stock every couple of weeks. But, a good amount of digging is necessary to find one. If I remember correctly, I remember seeing them popping up in November 2010.

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Thank you!

Im going to go and see if i can handle some .40’s with the safety this weekend to see if i dig it.

Otherwise its a standard LEM variant for me.

Thanks for answering these questions guys.

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Yeah, I saw that Nelson Tactical has a P30S V3 on GunBroker. Hmmmmmmmmm

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I just bought a P30LS off of the EE and should be here this weekend, I may not be on par with the top tier on this site but will give my impressions of it after a range day. I do plan on it being a ccw. Thanks for the extra info in this thread, it has been very informative.

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Now after more research I come to find that Safariland doesn’t even make a duty holster for the P30:( Nevermind a 6300 ALS holster to fit one with an X300 attached:no:

I will have to wait until Safariland starts making their ALS holsters for the P30 platform before I take the $900 plunge.

Oh well, Maybe next year…

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Are you sure? I have a 6377 for mine.

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Who frikken’ knows:confused: I just checked the safariland “will fit” chart and they didn’t show anything for the P30 with a Surefire X300 mounted.