Hero Bystander takes out school shooter

If the SHTF, why would you take a pistol? A pistol is a weapon you take to a gun fight that you don’t know you’re going to.

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Fair point - I should have phrased that differently by saying “pistol” instead of “weapon.”

The primary weapon would probably be the AR, unless I anticipated having to shoot at vehicles - then I might grab the M1a.

The P226 would be the sidearm on the belt.

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I hate to see you suffer embarrassment. I’d gladly take the weapon and the ammo if you want to give it away as a freebee. Just trying to help is all. :slightly_smiling_face:

That the shooter was stopped initally by a Female Teacher leads me to believe you could have left the pistol home and snuck up behind him and whacked him in the back of the head with a shovel.

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Here is some information including quotes from the hero citizen:

Kaylub Giamanco, the Hero Father Who Saved Lives in the OR Elementary School Shooting, Speaks Out – RedState

I read in another report that he apologized for not stopping the gunman early enough to save the dead children. Judging from the article, it appears he might have had a chance to engage the shooter while he was still outside the school.

Hindsight though is 20/20 - up to the moment that the shooter shot his way through the school doors, it was not totally clear what was going on. I will not fault Giamanco for taking steps to ensure his own safety by being cautious in his approach.

In the end he marched to the sound of the guns and took decisive action. This puts him ahead of better equipped LEO at Uvalde.

I’d like to think I could be as brave as Giamanco if called upon. I am not sure I would be - and I hope to never be in a position to find out.

I’d really like to hear the story behind the teacher who wrestled with the gunman and gave Giamanco the opportunity he needed. If it was a male teacher, he would deserve the Brass Balls award.

Since it was a female teacher, I nominate her for an Amazon warrior medal, with the Mama-Bear cluster.

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“Balls are delicate. Ever see what happens when something hits a man’s balls?
Now, a vagina is tough! Those can really take a pounding.” - Betty White

Anyway, I call them “brass ovaries”.

Man, just reading that makes me cringe :grimacing:

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Not sure how accurate this is ame only time will tell, but if it is jeez….

What an Outright Failure Bend PD and Deschutes County Are…typical Oregon Liberal DNC BS…52 Incident Calls…

We’re learning more about the 16-year-old who opened fire at a school in Bend, Oregon earlier this month, killing three children and a teacher before an armed Good Samaritan intervened and stopped the attack.

Now, as more of the shooter’s history comes to light, one of the newest details is absolutely staggering:

Between March 2020 and October 2026, 911 dispatch received 52 calls for service associated with his family’s home.

52 calls in just over six years.

According to Deschutes County 911 dispatch records obtained by local news, those calls included a runaway juvenile, suicidal subject, domestic dispute, welfare checks, among others. The records don’t establish that the shooter himself was involved in every one of those calls.

But 52 calls associated with one household is an extraordinary amount of contact with the system.

Local news also found that his mother had 37 documented encounters with Bend Police dating back to 2013.

And that adds to what we already knew about the years leading up to the shooting.

As a child, the shooter had been placed in a specialized program for students with significant behavioral and social challenges. Investigators are also looking into his possible connections to violent online extremist groups.

Then, just two months before the shooting, his mother bought a shotgun and gave it to him for his 16th birthday. That was the gun he ultimately used in the attack.

At some point, we have to ask where the accountability lands.

Because after something horrific like this happens, the conversation almost immediately turns to another gun law. Another restriction. Another tool the government supposedly needs to prevent the next one.

But what about the tools and systems already in place?

How do you get to 52 calls to one home in six years and still end up here? No gun law fixes that. Especially in Oregon, where they have so many gun laws that even the armed Good Samaritan who stopped the shooter had to break the law to end the attack.

This is a systemic failure and an accountability problem. We see these failures again and again, but rarely any accountability for how they happened or what needs to change to prevent the next one.

Before we start talking about what new laws millions of gun owners need to follow, I want to know where the existing system failed.

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We now have the identity of the 28-year-old female teacher who went mama-bear on the gunman.

Staffer who tackled Oregon school shooter speaks out: ‘It all happened so fast’

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An interview of the dad hat shot the scumbag