Great Movies Totally Ruined by their Sequels

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  1. Star Wars

In 1977, there was only one Star Wars movie. It was so good that people finished seeing the film, and literally got right back in line to see it again. You knew who the good guys and bad guys were, and the movie didn’t try to shovel any great literary content or strong emotion. It was a rollercoaster ride where the guys saving the galaxy get to win, and the main bad guy survives to fight another day. The Empire Strikes Back subjected us to the news that Vader was Luke’s father. At the time this disappointed enough people that I suspect to this day it was the last Star Wars film many saw. Subsequent offerings just seem to get less and less relevant. The filmmakers should have simply let the bad guys be bad guys and kept out all the fairy tale father/son/sister nonsense.

  1. Jaws

This is the movie that started the trend of people seeing a movie more than once. By the time we get to Jaws 3D and such horseshit it makes you wish the original Jaws had been allowed to become legend as a fantastic stand-alone horror film.

  1. Planet of the Apes

The original 1970’s Apes franchise started out with a fantastic flick with a surprise ending. The film series was so popular that the studio simply ran it into the ground. By the time the final episodes were completed, the writers had to resort to a “time travel” story and a “Battle for the Planet of the Apes” that was little more than an excuse to make another one.

I picked these films because they seem to be the ones that created the urge for endless sequels to be cranked out. I cringe whenever a new concept is introduced because, if it makes money, it will simply be run into the ground.

Honorable mention: Alien

Although the first sequel Aliens was in some ways superior to the original, Alien 3 made a huge mistake by restarting the franchise and killing off beloved characters (who did not even appear in the third one). Aliens was non-stop action/adventure. Alien 3 was like watching “Alien Lite”. Alien 4 just flat out sucked, with a plot that just scraped the bottom of the barrel. Prometheus was supposed to restart the franchise, but was just less of the same.

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Aliens was just as good if not better than Alien, they should have stopped after that.

The Godfather, I & II were outstanding . . . III not so much.

Death Wish, by far one of my favorite films. The second one wasn’t horrible but 3, 4, and 5 sucked.

Dirty Harry, they should have stopped after The Enforcer (part 3) . . . Sudden Impact (part 4), and The Dead Pool (part 5) should not even be included.

Lethal Weapon series . .

Die Hard Series . . .

I have to say I think the Rambo series got better as they went.

Liked all the Terminators as well.

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I thought Terminator 4 was horrible…it’s like they just tried to mesh together pieces of the previous ones, as some kind of homage. The story was pretty weak, allegedly due to the original ending being leaked, which they then changed. 3 wasn’t exactly outstanding either.

Major League…first one is a masterpiece, second one was basically a shittier made remake of the first, and the third :suicide:

I personally disagree with Star Wars since Empire Strikes Back is my favorite of them all.

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Superman (Christopher Reeve)
Friday the 13th
Halloween
Star Trek after Wrath of Kahn
Matrix
Police Academy
Revenge of the Nerds
Porky’s
Raiders of the Lost Arc
48 Hours
Beverly Hills Cop
NL Vacation with the exception of Christmas Vacation
Bourne Identity
Mission Impossible
Sniper
Major League

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No love for the last crusade?

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I loved Raiders of the Lost Ark. It may be my favorite movie.

Temple of Doom was decent, kind of like an encore. It wasn’t as good as Raiders, but I’ll take it.

Last Crusade was so-so.

Crystal Skull: Good Grief!

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I’d add Predator to the list as well

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I just ignore shitty sequels.

What pisses me off is when they **** over the originals for DVD. Lucas and Spielberg should not be allowed to “improve” their original work.

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I agree. I also generally prefer the original theatrical release to anything with “added material.”

I still fear the day when I will watch the director’s “final cut” of Blade Runner.

I almost didn’t buy the director’s cut of “Last of the Mohicans” and it turned out to be fine as far as I’m concerned. I know true aficionados are pissed that the Clannad song was omitted for the director’s cut. I really couldn’t remember the original theatrical release in enough detail that the director’s cut was particularly jarring.

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How about a predicted fail? Top Gun 2…

http://m.christianpost.com/news/top-gun-2-latest-rumors-sequel-is-top-priority-maverick-to-fight-off-drones--124618/

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Highlander.

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Best of the Best!

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Bloodsport

Karate Kid

Starship Troopers

Superman 2 (though I do like Superman Returns w/Brandon Routh)

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:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Hat

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s06e09-free-hat

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Isn’t The Empire Strikes Back pretty commonly considered to be the best of the series?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/americas-favorite-star-wars-movies-and-least-favorite-characters/

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Revenge of the Nerds

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OMG I can’t believe I forgot highlander. When your tag line is “There can be only one”, take it as a goddamn hint!

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Die hard is the first hte comes to mind. I did actually enjoy the third one, but the second, and fourth sucked balls. Have been putting off the fifth.

Terminator… I actually like the 2nd more than the first(Sorry, likely because I saw the second first as a kid and it stuck), the third sucked, and the Rise of the Machines I liked. But one was meh, and three was OMG get it away.

Blade is another. Though I am sure that many here didn’t like the first, the second was shitty and Ryan Reynolds and Jessica was the only reason to watch the third.

The Matrix… My head hurts from that.

Mission Impossible, not sure if it is the movies or the actor here but the second, third, and fourth ones… Dear Christ.

The Bourne series really should top the list. The first was okay, it showed promise, but had issues, after that they went so ****ing far off script that I felt that the Ludlum estate should have had rights to remove the heads of those involved. I mean if you are going to make a movie based on the book how about reading the ing book you mothering hollycocksuckingwood hack before writing the sceneplay you talentless cocksucker!!!

The Bourne Legacy… Okay, I went to see that one, Mainly because I really love Jeremy Renner as an actor and he was the only reason I watched that piece of tripe or Ghost Protocol for that matter. Honestly, I wouldn’t be as harsh on the movie if they didn’t try to cash on on the Bourne series. Cut out of the bourne shit, add some more of Renner caving in skulls and shooting shit up, bill it as a super soldier/spy movie and I would have given it a solid seven . As it was, didn’t follow the actual book, which ****ing sucked on so many goddamn levels that I can not begin to describe, and the science was soft shit and then you had them just about forcing in shit related to the bourne series that it was pitiful on twenty seven different levels.

Jurassic Park 3 should also make the list. The Lost World, could be argued, but three…
Haven’t seen it but 300 Rise of an Empire makes my list because it is no longer the 300 Spartan’s you ****ing moron hence it is no longer the 300! (Sorry, but that pissed me off when they announced that. Felt too cash-in-ish. Have heard good things in regards to the movie, then again these are the same people who think American idol is quality TV
How about Charlie and Chocolate Factory? Haven’t seen it but…

There are others I am sure, but I can’t think of any other blatant cash ins of sequels off the top of my head that truly sucked that I haven’t been relegated to the deepest, darkest recesses of my memory to be tortured.

Actually, I own Blade Runner the Final cut in the 10th anniversary DVD set. Nothing too drastic was changed, and I have watched all the cuts that were included because I was in college, drunk, and bored. I would honestly argue, unless I missed something, that it was an improvement, if in only the small details on where the movie did **** up. Like the one scene were Zhora is running through the glass and gets shot. Will say that it beat the hell out of Alexander: Revisited the Final Cut, in my opinion. And yes, I do own both. Though I am usually the type that enjoys the extended cuts(Alexander exempted here), at least of movies that I really liked, but then again I liked watching movies I really liked with commentaries too, so I am strange that way.

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The decade plus of Roger Moore’s 007 has to be the record for longest series of rotten sequels. Connery was aggressive and arrogant based on confidence in his competence. Moore was merely flippant and mocking. Too old in the first, he was creaky by the last.

Daniel Craig is great, but would like to see more of the book Bond playfulness in future outings.

You had to be of reading age at the time to appreciate how quickly 007 came into the country’s consciousness. When it was reported that the Fleming books were JFK’s favorite, everyone read them, including twelve year old me.

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C’mon Kain, tell us how you really feel. Don’t hold back lol