LOL! wolverineSIERRA, if you think 4 mags is too much you would stroke out if you saw what we carry. Rather have it and not need it then well… you know. If local LE wants to carry some extra weight what do you care? By the way, some juristictions (including mine) would wait hours upon hours for a state team to get there. Forget about federal. Why don’t you give us a good arguement for not carrying anymore than 2-3 extra mags. No offense but, stay in your lane.
Better to have and not need, than to need and not have, ring a bell?
WolverineSierra, can you give a legitimate or logical argument as to why they shouldn’t have such a loadout? The argument that the chances are “highly unlikely” does not rule out the possibility of it actually happening, no matter how remote it may or may not be. So if it is indeed a possibility, no matter how remote, should answer your own question. Since it is a possibility, we should plan for the worst, hope for the best. What are we losing by doing this?
As mentioned, I would also be interested in your credentials that allows you to give such advice to a LE agency or a tactical unit.
I will also say that if you read some of the intel that comes from certain Federal agencies that are incident debriefs and the suggested loadouts (snipers are quite a bit) or plans of actions, these type of loadouts would be the norm. The world climate, Beslan, Mumbai etc, while have happened abroad, have had resounding effects within the US. It is also interesting to see the intel on “projected” types of “likely” terrorist attacks within our own borders. These Federali type reports would make our LEO’s carry a bit more.
Hate to say it, but if some of the simple “projected” types of terrorist attacks ever happen on US soil, the Feds will be far over taxed to handle the “situations” accordingly. There will be much need for local and State agencies. We need to wake up a bit and pull our heads out of the sand. What are we really losing by being more prepared?
I have a kydex old paddle mag pouch in my desk for your cop buddy. email me his/your contact info and I will mail it out today. Any one got a spare mag for him?
wolverineSIERRA,
I’m not sure what you are trying to start here. When I was on active duty as an Aviator I always flew with an SV2/LPA, Torso Harness, Chute and a Douglas Espac 1E. Never wanted to use them either. You would probably not like my aw shit load out. I’m not sure where you are at but in the area where I work it would take probably 24 to 48 to get the HRT out here and by that time how many would be dead.
Fight the way you train, train the way you fight.
Dan
See my signature. 
Hi usmcvet:
I sent you a PM. Thanks.
Let me know. I have mags and a sling for your buddy.
Thank you as well. I guess I should elaborate on my friend’s situation. His department only issued their patrol officers (non SWAT) who are qualified to carry the ARs, two magazines, no sling and no method to carry the spare mag. They’re also are not allowed to modify their rifles. As I said earlier, he is using an inner tube to hold the spare on the A2 stock. But he’s spending his own money to buy an Eagle active shooter shoulder bag and stuffed it with his own 30 round magazines and ammo. I can’t remember if he’s installed a sling on the rifle or not as it’s not always a guarantee for him to check out the same rifle for each shift.
He is well trained with several courses from places and instructors such as Thunder Ranch, Ken Hackathorn, Dave Harrington and Larry Vickers. On his privatedly own carbines, he’s using the Vickers Combat Application Slings. He’s got dozen of magazines as well, I was only reporting what the standard issue kit that he’s issued with.
With the thanks of the NRA’s Lifetime Salesman Award going to “you know who” it has put all kinds of weapons into hands of Americans…NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, but since crime has not gone down, and since you probably have your pistol in your bed table, your shotgun under your bed or behind the closet door, along with the rifle, or now two, in the closet shelf up high so the kids do play with it…and that most people have the same layout, criminals are more likely to retrieve a weapon in a B&E or Home invasion…how do you want to be set up as the FR that shows up to that scene and there still in the house… and since your not a LEO, be anywhere around a incedent that someone goes off… I will bet that you will be praying that the officers that come to get you out of this sht has enough ammo…
No offence, but do you live in Berkley! (LOL)
Velcro
uh, what?
my point being…
is that LEO’s are facing a different kinda bad guy…a possibly better armed bad guy, so really, should the amount of rounds that the LEO is carrying even be an concern, I understand to some, but its seem to be a easy “better to have it and not need it” especially when that may involve that LEO saving my or my families life…and pray that hes a good shot!
Velcro
I carry 6 mags in the door of my unit, I carry 9 mags in my tac vest. Being a resident deputy 80 or so miles away from the main office I carry a full case of 1000 rounds in the back just in case.
You can never have to many bullets or loaded mags. I also carry ten 10 round 1911 mags as spares, plus 4 on my duty belt.
Back up, what’s that.
D Williams
We issue 3 pistol mags and 1 box of ammo. Thats it. Oops, we issue shotty ammo if someone is carrying one. On the flip side, I authorize and encourage my officers to carry as much spare magazines/ammo as they want and to have a way of having it handy. I have issued my personal 870 on several occasions out to new hires who dont have a longgun or shotty. I got personal AR’s authorized and wrote the policy. Whenever the DRMO gets off of its butt, we will be issueing AR’s that we get from the Fed’s. I got my guys plate carriers with plates. If we have an A/S, its up to us to handle it, not anyone else. The nearest Fed team is an hour away.Nothing against Federal LEO’s, I work part time as one, but I would hazard a guess that 99% of A/S that dont occur at a Federal Installation are handles by Local LEO’s. Be prepared is my motto.
Apologies about the misunderstanding Sam. Always willing to help a brother in need out, but it sounds like your buddy is squared away as far as gear and training goes. 
Thank you sir, no need for apologies. You and usmcvet are very generous.
Please don’t give advice like this. This is how a lot of the bad policies and procedures come about. Chief A will copy what Chief B does, who in turn copied what Chief C implemented. Once a stupid policy is in place, it takes an act of God to repeal or replace it. Because you are basically telling the Chief and the Command Staff they were idiots in for implementing the stupid policy. I’ve fought and still fight those battles through educating and training them properly but it takes a lot of damn time and effort to change their minds.
My personal throw on Plate Carrier Upgrade Vest (Eagle) has 4 extra 30 round magazines, 2 extra pistol mags, a pouch with a 15x monocular (we aren’t allowed scopes or magnifiers on our rifles right now, doing that BATTLE right now with the bosses) and a first aid kit on it. The Bail Out Bag in our Patrol Cars have 6 extra magazines in it. Yes, I only have 1 in the pistol and two extra mags on my belt, but I would carry more if they let me. Let me remind you of the old adage, " one is none, two is one" and sometimes three or four is only one because shit happens.
You guys with extra mags and ammo, consider yourself lucky. We have 3 pistol mag and 5 rounds of buckshot…thats it.
And you are blaming the NRA and more guns in the hands of citizens for this increase in well armed criminals?
To the OP, you constantly argue against yourself. If a LEO gets in a situation that he needs six mags, you are right, it is FUBAR. So he should probably be carrying twelve mags, just in case.
Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Guns and bullets are those things you don’t often need, but when you need them you REALLY REALLY NEED THEM!
Dude,
Re-read the first post that he wrote…
With the thanks of the NRA’s Lifetime Salesman Award going to “you know who” it has put all kinds of weapons into hands of Americans…NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT
I believe he is referring to the current POTUS if I’m not mistaken. The fact that many homeowners are armed results in more criminals getting their hands on stolen guns during home robberies.