How can you expect to compare a $1k gun to a $500 gun? No accuracy issues with mine. But I do understand that’s not always the case.
And for what it’s worth you can buy 3 kimbers and find 2 that don’t feed.
All that being said, I’m a huge fan of 1911’s. I love shooting both 1911’s and my m&p . Comparing the 2 is a real stretch unless you have an equal amount of money invested.
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I don’t own an M&P but if you open up a glock and check out how the trigger stuff interacts you can polish up the stuff that rubs and really make your glock shoot much nicer. It’ll make the trigger, especially if you’ve got the lighter trigger stuff that comes with the G34 perform much better. Best part it’s basically free.
There is something to be said about giving yourself enough time to get used to a new platform (ie trigger, ergo, etc). Often times bad habits are masked.
Here are some 4 round shot groups (WWB 115gr) standing unsupported from a FS M&P 9 with factory threaded barrel and APEX DCAEK (Mar 12 test fire date). I shoot my Glocks just as well with “.” or “-” connector installed depending on which Generation I am shooting.
I still believe the 1911 is by far the easiest pistol to shoot well outside of .22 target pistols. For years and years most of my practice was with DA/SA pistols like the SIG and HK USPs. Then I started fooling with 1911s which I had hated for years because of their heft and unreliability–then I got my hands on a reliable one. To this day I believe the same man who actually tries will shoot more accurately with a 1911 under pressure.
That being said, I carry a J-frame which may be the worst possible combination of trigger, weight, shape, etc for shooting because ultimately it is about having a gun with you more than absolute mechanical precision, power and/or capacity.
I’m 99% in agreement with you. I personally do shoot a G19 better than a 1911 under time constraints, and awkward positions than I do a 1911, due to length of the gun, and recoil. (It could also be due to the trigger. I think I have more consistent cadence with a longer slightly heavier trigger.)
You will have to excuse me but I’m afraid I’m too old to change my perspective on polymer handguns. In July 1966 at Edson Range (MCB Camp Pendleton) the 1911 got my attention and I don’t think it will lose it anytime soon. YMMV
Call me the smart ass on this, but why does it seem that we always want to compare this gun or that gun to the 1911? Or shall we say that companies are always trying to find something new that will rival it, yet it seems to have held its own for how many years now?
You can read articles on a new rifle cartridge where is states “almost the same as a .30-06” or “just as good as a .30-06” if you keep trying to come up with something new to compare with the old, why not stick with what worked? There are new things that come along and are better, but they should stand on their own, not try to run off another’s reputation.
I was introduced to the 1911 at Camp Lejeune in 1966, so yes, I’m an old phart. It was the first semi I ever shot & I’m still a big fan of good 1911’s. I have several tupperware guns, ( Three Glocks & an HK), that I shoot well & carry on occasion. I always end up going back to my 1911’s.
And yes, LAV! I can do “The Test”, (10 rounds, 10 yards, 10 inch circle, in 10 seconds, with a reload), with my TRP. It’s a good drill with a Glock, but it’s a bit more difficult with a 1911 because after you change mags, you still need to get 2 more shots on target.
I really like the M&P pistols with the Apex FSS kit and thumb safety. I think they offer the shortest “learning curve” going from a 1911 to a polymer gun.
I’ve never found anything that fits my hand like a 1911. It feels like an extension of my arm.
On the other hand, glocks (to some extent) and FN pistols (worst offenders IMO) feel like holding a plastic brick. I owned an M&P for a while and it was comfortable and accuracy was serviceable, but it didn’t do it for me like a 1911. Even for carry, I opt for an alloy framed commander 1911.