Force reset triggers not going so well in court

Been hearing about this from other sources.

The most pro 2A administration in history is still going with anti 2A efforts.

What a massive waste of money and effort. Iโ€™m not familiar with Rare Breed or really FRTs at all, but a guy I know was referencing them on the phone the other day. Does Rare Breed continue to sell these and sue everyone who copies them?

From what I got out of that guy and others they have to.

Wonder what will happen to all the FRTs and Super Safeties that came on the market after the original case against Rare Breed was dropped and the triggers ordered returned to their ownwers?

So people had these triggers seized? And then got them back?

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Itโ€™s gonna be hard to put that genie back in the bottle. FRTs are all over the place.

Neither side of the same coin is in favor of them so there are lots of resources available.

โ€โ€ฆ.there are lots of resources available.โ€

To what end? They gonna go door-to-door? I mean then weโ€™re talking just like a gun confiscation. Many have been sold without paperwork. Whatโ€™re they gonna do about that? That is why I said itโ€™s gonna be really hard to put that genie back in the bottle. Best they can do is ban them (again), hope it doesnโ€™t get thrown out (again), and wait for nosey neighbors to tattletale. I mean it is kinda hard to hide shooting one, even with a suppressor, unless itโ€™s subsonic loads youโ€™re gonna hear it.

With Flock and AI it should be do-able.

East Germany had a thumb on just about everyone with very old school technology.

If something is untraceable, I canโ€™t see how AI or Flock is gonna help. They canโ€™t pick something out of thin air. Now the sound? Different story altogether (maybe thatโ€™s where you meant Flock came in, but it has to be close enough to pick it upโ€ฆ.out in the sticks it isnโ€™t likely). Besides, if they were banned again most people are smart enough to keep them on the down-low; you have it now, you know it works, then youโ€™d just have to reserve it for a โ€œrainy dayโ€ after that. Oh, and make sure you remove it if you sell the gun!

Wifi is another possibility.

Not sure why going door to door is off the table either.

I didnโ€™t say it was off the table, but that it therefore goes right up there with door-to-door gun confiscation. Unlikely, but certainly not impossible. Things like that tend to teeter on the edge of the abyss. It would be ugly and [hopefully] costly to the agents of the state. It would also likely be a sign of the end of our country as we know it.

Now if you are on a list of buyers and they specifically call you out, then the choice is yours what you do. Random door-to-door would be stupid on their behalfโ€ฆ.you think Minneapolis is giving the Feds headaches! If someone kept records of who they sold to then yeah, they might be looking you up. Same as the MKS remanufactured M14 receivers back in the day: it wasnโ€™t a random door-to-door search, they went to the specific buyers that MKS had sold to (obviously via a 4473, which an FRT doesnโ€™t have).

No reason to think it would be a headache. Almost all elected democrats and a fair amount of gop would be in favor of it which means most voters would go along with it.

Youโ€™re being quite the contrarian these last few days, eh? If youโ€™re talking about specific โ€œvisitsโ€ based on sales data, yeah youโ€™re right and I think I spelled it out above. Now actual door-to-door gun confiscation? Wouldnโ€™t matter one iota what Dems, RINOs, or your neighbors thought or supported. That kind of behavior would spark a civil war/Northern Ireland โ€œTroublesโ€ events, and deservedly so. Things donโ€™t occur in a vacuumโ€ฆ.word would get out and shit would disappear (if one was a thinking man). The sentiment, however, would linger and fester and weโ€™d see domestic โ€retributionโ€ activities. No one wants it to go there, but often times events dictate actions instead of the reverse. Oh well.

So jsbhike, are you gonna be the first one on the block to โ€œturn โ€˜em all inโ€ in the scenario you imply would be so popular with everyone? I mean we donโ€™t stand a chance, soโ€ฆโ€ฆ:roll_eyes:

Edited to add: I donโ€™t know what kind of fvcking retarded voters are around you, but here in TN that shit would never be popular or people โ€œokayโ€ with it. Maybe Nashville, Memphis, or Knoxville (less so), but who fvcking cares what they think!

Getting put through the dui wringer while driving sober seems to be very accepted by residents of the volunteer state.

โ€œ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถโ€™๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ ๐˜ข ๐˜ฑ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ค๐˜ถ๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜บ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜บ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ ๐˜ซ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ญ ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ด. ๐˜–๐˜ง๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜บ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ง๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜บ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ถ๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜บ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ.โ€ - Tennessee Highway Patrol Col. Matt Perry

Itโ€™s actually not โ€œacceptedโ€, it pissed quite a few people off. The number of gun owners in TN far surpasses the number of false DUIs, so not a valid comparison. Also, while not having much in the way of โ€œteethโ€, this was done by the legislature:

โ€Governor Bill Lee has now signed 2025 Senate Bill 1166 into law. It is now designated as 2025 Public Chapter 327. This law originated due to the investigation by WSMV TV (Channel 4) in Nashville, Tennessee. They requested, analyzed and divulged how hundreds of innocent drivers have been wrongfully arrested for the crime of driving under the influence.

This new law requires the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to provide a report to the speakers of the Senate and the House of Representatives on or before January 1 each year detailing the instances where no alcohol or other intoxicants were detected in the personโ€™s blood or breath after an arrest for driving under the influence.โ€

Also, I might add that TN doesnโ€™t have a Demoshit governor nor did we send Mitch the Bitch to Congress for decades, so thereโ€™s that. :roll_eyes: So maybe clean up your own shitshow up there before criticizing other places.

I donโ€™t defend McConnell or anyone else in the wrong.

Looks like that law has no punishment for violations.

That syncs with keeping Perry in place after making his position crystal ckearm

PUBLIC CHAPTER NO. 327

SENATE BILL NO. 1166

By Akbari, Bailey, Bowling

Substituted for: House Bill No. 127 4

By Shaw, Russell, Dixie, Hakeem

AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated; Title 6; Title 7; Title 8 and Title 38, relative to arrests

made for operating vehicles under the influence.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNE$SEE:

SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 38, Chapter 6, Part 1, is amended by adding

the following as a new section:

(a) The Tennessee bureau of investigation shall provide a report to the speakers of the

senate and the house of representatives on or before January 1, 2026, and each January 1

thereafter, detailing the instances in the most recent year for which complete data is available

in which a person who was arrested for driving under the influence under ยง 55-10-401 but

where no alcohol or other intoxicants are detected in the personโ€™s blood or breath.

(b) The report required under subsection (a) must include the law enforcement agency

that made the arrest.

(c) This section is repealed on July 1, 2029.

SECTION 2. This act takes effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it.

โ€Looks like that law has no punishment for violations.โ€

Uh, that would be addressed by my comment about not having any โ€œteethโ€ to it.

Well thatโ€™s the norm.

Ca. 2000 KY decreed that all seized firearms be transferred to the state police once any trial need was gone. Le agencies just ignored it. The next legislative session they came back with another law that they meant itโ€ฆwith no penalties. Surprisingly/oddly the le agencies turned at least some in.

Federal and most states(last i checked there was 1 oddball) that did the hurricane katrina โ€œinspiredโ€ no confiscations during emergencies legislation had no penalties for violations so that will likely occur again to keep most voters happy.