DRACOs

Thinking about DRACOs and whether it even makes sense to consider a mini at all. The std DRACO is basically a military model in semi auto.

The mini barrel is so short along with the gas system that it requires a buffer to keep the piston from short stroking. Do folks consider this a complete non-starter? (I did read a review in which the pistol chewed up the buffer after just 300 rounds - still funcitoned but regular replacement is likely required.

I do like the SHORT system, but maybe this is not advisable.

Thanks.

While I’m a complete AK whore, I just can’t bring myself to buy a mini Draco. I do really like my SBR’d underfolding Draco.

I’m with Bret, but I made mine a side folder.

If you can swap out the rear underfolder trunnion for a regular rear trunnion, I think that the side folder is more functional and looks better. Here’s my underfolder.

Here is a Vector semi auto AK that I bought about 9 years ago:

Almost got the mini, but in the end, I could not bring myself to rely on a buffer to operate and not go with a “military version”.

Good call.

I still think there is a sweet spot that CAI should have gone to - like 9.5 or 10" to run with no buffer reliably for their mini/mid. I looked at the M92 but another pound+ does not interest me.

I think for 7.62x39 the Draco 12.25" is as short as you can go for practical. If it was 5.45x39 then you can go to Krink lengths.

Hence boosters on shorter (7.62) ones?

In theory one might be needed for a full auto, but not for a semiauto. I have literally never encountered a semiauto AK that needed a booster in order to run. The vast majority of AK’s are way over gassed. If your AK will run reliably without a booster, adding one only makes the over gassing worse.

I have an old Draco that had the under folder trunnion so I had it cut. Still, I sort of wish I had installed a fixed stock. They are some cool little blasters.

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11 day turnaround in my sbr draco

I’m in the process of gathering parts and tools to chop my SAR-1 to ~12.5” on a Form 1. Turns out, the combo gas block I picked up is adjustable, so that’ll help with the can. I’ll try to let y’all know what I think when it’s done.

I’ll be keeping the fixed wood stock, solely to make a certain lawyer jealous. Well, that, and because I sanded the shellack off by hand and stained it in a barracks room 18 years ago, and I can’t let that American craftsmanship go to waste.

Gotta ask, why would you chop down a banned SAR-1 rather than buy and convert a Draco to a fixed stock trunnion? Lots of Dracs out there and still being imported for friendly prices, unlike SAR 1s.

Because I don’t know how (I’m sure I can learn, but I didn’t realize that was an easy option), and I’ve already got a rarely shot rifle that I paid $300 for, back when that was a thing.

Really, I was considering buying new, but quickly tired of trying to learn what to look for in the current market, and tired even more quickly at looking into having a pro do it. So I decided to entertain myself with a goonsmiffiin’ project instead. Anything special about the SAR-1 that should concern me? I thought it was a pretty common run-of-the-mill gun. It’s not quite original, as I had it threaded already. Took the gunsmith two deployment cycles to get it done.

I’ll look into the fixed stock conversion and see if it’s viable for me to Khyber a newish gun; thanks.

I don’t think that the SAR-1 is banned. They just don’t import that particular variant anymore. For that reason, it’s value is above that of current imports. While you may have paid $300 for it, its current market value is what matters. Your logic is the opposite of a sunk cost fallacy, though I don’t know what that would be called. I definitely agree with SteyrAUG that buying a Draco and replacing the rear trunnion is the way to go, though finding a competent AKsmith to do the rivet work in a timely manner might be problematic.

Switching from a 45 deg block to a 90 is at least as hard as installing a different (std) trunnion. Barrel journals and such aren’t trivial.

The combo FSB I bought is designed specifically to make that conversion doable for knuckleheads like myself. We’ll see if it’s really that straightforward.

Which one?