I work for a small midwest town of about 14,000 people. I attended a budget meeting Monday night and the Captain of our pd presented his departments captital requests for the fiscal year. I was pleased to hear him ask for six patrol carbines as I had been pushing them to try and buy them. The Captain is a great guy, the RO for the pd and also their armorer. When I asked if he was looking at Colt 6920’s or such, he showed me a picture and ad for Sigs. I know nothing about Sigs so I thought I would see what the informed people here thought. I think the price was just over $1,300 each and I don’t have any details yet on accessories he might be looking at. So what do you guys think, Sig, Colt or something else? Thanks for any input.
What Sig model?
Well, really, it doesn’t matter.
I would recommend Colt 6920s or 6921s any day over pretty much anything else in the price range for duty use.
This^^ He could get the Colt 6920s for around $1,000 each (maybe cheaper with LEO discount), and still have $300+ to put into accessories. The colt is by far the better gun IMO.
I doubt you’ll find any fans for the Sig on here. They’ve mainly become a marketing firm with little to show in the product area. The gun rags are pretty much shills these days for any marketing company that will shell out advertising dollars, so anything in their publications is suspect.
The Colt 6920 is the cheaper and MUCH better way to go.
Colt. Hands down. If the Sig he was looking at was in an ad, it was probably garbage. If you think a 3rd party would have positive influence, send him to this site or PM me and I’ll write up a formal letter clearly weighing the pros and cons of each.
As far as SIG goes, if their rifles are going to take the same road as their line of pistols then we can expect to see the Dark Hello Kitty M4 and Gay Pride M4 models rolling out soon.
I don’t know too much about the sig, but you can save $300 and buy known quality carbines. I would imagine that sort of value and savings would go well in today’s budget conscious state of affairs.
Was he talking about the M400? When you dig into the specs for each, Colt wins. In fact, I have no idea what SIG does for testing on the most critical parts, the bolt and barrel, as there are no markings on either one for HP/MP and nothing mentioned for such in their posted specs. I sure wouldn’t be picking a duty rifle from a marketing flyer. :stop:
If he is willing to spend $1300 on a Sig (not including the accessories), then see if you can get him to buy off on the $1000 Colts with Aimpoint T-1’s and X300’s (with appropriate mounts for each of course).
I’m only familiar with individual officer pricing. Agency pricing is. Slightly better. For the $1,300 he’s budgeted, you could do a lot. You should be able to pay for a 6920 and and an Aimpoint PRO with that price point.
I would pass on the Sig, for a variety of reasons.
An assortment of high quality carbines are available to FET-exempt agencies for under $1000.00. There were several in the $800-900 range as well. There is no need to even consider good-as guns.
Sig has had a lot of trouble getting their carbine a LE footprint, even in Sig agencies. If you guys truly wanted their model(s), you don’t have to pay anywhere near published prices.
but I can tell you the rifle was junk, way overhyped, and has some serious flaws…I wish a couple years ago I had been to this sight before wasting my time and money on one.
There really is no contest here. Colt. Most upper echelons LE don’t really know shit about guns. Let’s be honest. Most LE, in general, thinks quals make them them the end all, be all experts. Couldn’t be further from the truth. I’ve attended many classes where LE has been out shot by .mil(expected by me) and tuned in citizens. As everyone knows that has been a member here for a while, I am pro-LE.
Colt. Period. Unless we are going to include DD, LaRue, KAC, FN, and HK.
I just paid $995 for a brand new Colt 6920. Since you are LE, it would not surprise me if you could get them cheaper. That’s quite a savings over the $1,300 Sig, which has not has very good reviews, but I’m sure Sig will work out the bugs if they haven’t already. The 6920 would leave the department an extra $300 or more savings per gun, and the 6920 has an outstanding reputation. Look at it this way, if your dept buys ten 6920’s, you would save enough for an eleventh gun, or a lot of accessories for the ones you purchased.
