A person familiar with the matter told NBC News there have been conversations inside the Justice Department about the far-reaching implications of pursuing a case against Trump, should it come to that. So far, no public evidence has surfaced that the former president has become a criminal target.
Filing criminal charges against Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the election “will very likely spark civil unrest, and maybe even civil war,” said Barbara McQuade, an NBC legal analyst and a former U.S. attorney.
But, she said, “I think not charging is even worse, because not charging means you failed to hold someone criminally accountable who tried to subvert our democracy.”
Either way, “It’s a momentous and unprecedented decision — not as easy as some folks might imagine it to be,” said Chuck Rosenberg, an NBC News legal analyst who is a former federal prosecutor and former head of the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The contours of a possible criminal case against Trump have been clear to legal experts for some time. A federal judge said in a ruling in a civil case in March that Trump “more likely than not” committed federal crimes in seeking to obstruct the congressional count of the Electoral College ballots on Jan. 6, 2021, citing two statutes: obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.
It won’t be Trump per se, I don’t think he has that kind of pull on people. IMO, it will come off as the next step in an utter corruption of the justice system, maybe a shark jumping moment. A “Soviet show trial”. At that point people will figure, if it can happen to him, it can happen to any of us.
It’s going to happen eventually. The sooner we get it over with the sooner people will pull their heads out of their asses and realize how good we really have it.
You say that thread title like you think it’s a bug… to Dems it’s a perfect manufactured pretext for sweeping the last vestiges of the Old Republic away and proclaiming a new American Empire under Pedophilus the First and his array of Grima Wormtongues.
They WANT open hostilities, are just waiting for something they can twist into a Ft Sumter or Archduke in Sarajevo pretext to lace up their jackboots and goose-step into Total War.
My guess is they think they can either get it over with before resistance can organize, or they think they can get the middle third-or-so to either side with their third-or-less against our third-or-so or sit it out. The arrogance of these people defies description, they think you can program people to do what you want them to just by appropriate positive or negative stimulus like Pavlovian Conditioning.
I can’t fathom their thought pattern, but when the shooting starts it will be a long time, maybe decades before it ends.
Stealing a national election must be ok though !
‘They’ have been saying that Trump is going to be indicted and goosewalked out of Trump Tower for the past 6 years…. And…. And…
Notice that they don’t list charges? What exactly did he do, like USC blah, blah, blah. The problem for them is that if they get specific, it won’t be very serious, and then you are going to try him on some mickey-mouse BS, or some ‘conspiracy’ charge? Go after him for a big one- and the problem is that he clearly isn’t guilty because they have taken 18 months to get to charging him.
It’s all BS trying to rile people up. Don’t charge him and the idiots will protest and riot this summer. Indict him and the right will fill the streets- and when you call up the National Guard and 1/2 don’t show up, and the other half don’t want anything to do with it?
Fine, try him in West Virginia and have the pretty-mouth DOJ lawyer from DC try to get a conviction.
They can’t do it…there is WAY too much proof of Trump saying to peacefully protest, Antifa changing clothes into maga outfits, Epps, Capitol police opening doors for protestors, etc. This committee is a ruse to attempt to keep him from 2024. They are TERRIFIED of him running / winning.
Can’t? If there is anything I’ve learned over the last few years is that the ComDems can do anything they want and get away with it. But if your cellphone happened to ping in the capital on 01/06/21 then you get your front door kicked in and you get to sit in jail for 2 years on a “possible” misdemeanor charge.
I have a lifelong friend that’s a Democrat he is completely embarrassed by the corruption and lies. It’s astonishing that Pelosi is still there, but then again Cali is the land of mules
IT is the obvious political nature of the investigation and charges that makes it all the more likely that they will go ahead.
Like I said, it has been 18 months and they are just now getting to charges…
January 6th, 2021??? How about January 6th 2017 when Commie Comey sprung the Dossier on Trump so that the MSM could talk about for the next four years…
What the phrase they chant… “No justice, no peace”?
They can’t…that’s why you have two hand picked rino swamp rats on the committee. They would literally have to be able to have the same dog & pony show, controlling every aspect of evidence & witnesses which cannot be done…the proof is with djt. Not saying they may not try, just can’t succeed in an open fair court setting.
They are railroading the j6 ‘peons’ that you have to find on SM / alternative media to even know about…can’t do it with an ex pres.
Dinesh has publicly challenged Barr to debate the ‘most legitimate election in history.’ Crickets from Barr. No way in hell do they want actual evidence of fraud being presented. Never gonna happen.
Ain’t that the truth. When it comes to gun guys in my neck of the woods, you can barely get them to get up an hour early and help set up a match stage let a lone get into a shooting war with the gov’t.
Me too. They don’t actually want a war, because I think they know that it will sway a lot of moderates against them. Charging Trump would be a very obvious shot not at Trump himself, but at the entirety of conservative America.
Try “talk tough and beat chests like King Kong on local gunboards but refuse to sign inititative petitions, vote or even donate the cost of a damn Barfstucks Crappocino to fund lawsuits.”
Hence my signature on PNW boards about “What have YOU done to defend your 2A rights against the idiots in DC and Olympia/Salem today?”…
Every interview Ive seen from the committee members has used language like “if you ask me, there are criminal acts”. I see this at work a lot when people call the police on things they dont like but know are not illegal. “If you ask me, spanking your kids is child abuse”. Well I have yet to see “ask what Karen thinks” in the Arizona Revised Statutes. When people report actual crimes they dont really need to add a disclaimer that in their opinion it is a crime. They just state that the act was a crime.
If they had uncovered criminal acts they would have given them to the DOJ for an actual criminal investigation. I also think there would be some serious legal questions raised about the government putting everything on a multi part prime time show and then using that to criminally charge someone.