Yeah our country and education system is screwed !
Saw it on Megyn Kelly show
Wearing patriotic bandanas and chanting USA is racist !!!
Its now a “teachable moment”
Gabe Soumakian, the superintendent of the Oxnard Union School District, told Fox News’ Todd Starnes that the USA chants had “racial overtones” and this could be a “teachable moment” for the school. He also said the “USA” chant did not comply with California state athletic guidelines and noted, “it has to do with the fact that they are making a chant regarding that we are from the USA and you’re not. Whether that’s the implied intent, that’s the way it comes across.”
I would not hestitate to call Mr. Soumakian “stupid”. If he thinks “USA” is racist, his head isn’t in the right place to be doing anything involving kids. His teaching certificate should be revoked! :mad:
It’s CA.
This is not only to be expected but they breed this type of thing.
I guess old Gabe thinks Hispanic folks are not US folks ! Talk about racist
I am so sick of this Black American Hispanic American etc…
Either you are American or not !
Whats funny is one of my South African friends who is white lives here now and got in trouble for putting down he is African American on some form one time 
hahhaahah
He was told it only applies to Black people !
Proving those terms are just to racially divide
Send in the drones! :eek:
I think everyone here needs to stop being so jittery and actually think this out a bit more.
These kids are from a high school in CA, which undoubtedly has a large hispanic population. They are at a athletic sporting even and they are supposed to cheering for their school and/or team. They clearly have little reason to cheer for the “USA” in this context, which makes me agree Mr. Soukmain that the chant probably does indeed have racial/nationality overtones. We’re talking about high school boys for Pete’s sake.
Now does this call for actual disciplinary action? Personally I would say no, because they are not actually explicitly saying racial things and are not causing a disturbance, and their speech is protected under the 1A as decided in Tinker v. Des Moines.
In fact, my main problem with them is violating the flag code by wearing the flag as bandannas.
So in your eyes hispanics are not US citizens ?
Or Hispanics should now be offended by Americans chanting USA ?
Yeah folks who agree with this stuff want a divided country then !
You are a US citizen and proud of this country or not ? Your color or race or religion should not matter and is not supposed to !
Its idiocy like this that is screwing the country
When someone cant have a flag outside their home of the country they are in or chant their country at a sporting event without being called racist !
Now even the pledge of allegiance in School was said as one nation under alajha so as not to offend the one muslim in the school ?
Our education system and country is going down the toilet and folks like this are the ones flushing it !
And they did not wear flags ? unless I missed that ?
they had bandanas that had star stripes just like shirts that have flags on them etc…
Some are, some aren’t. California has a very large population of undocumented hispanic immigrants. Do you disagree?
Or Hispanics should now be offended by Americans chanting USA ?
I’m not hispanic so I do not know.
Yeah folks who agree with this stuff want a divided country then !
Why are they chanting “USA” at a sporting event that has little to nothing to do with said sporting event? The administration obviously knows something we don’t.
You are a US citizen and proud of this country or not ? Your color or race or religion should not matter and is not supposed to !
Is this a question to me, or is it a question in general? I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say. And who said religion or race should matter? What point are you trying to make with this, and are you directing this at me?
Its idiocy like this that is screwing the country
When someone cant have a flag outside their home of the country they are in or chant their country at a sporting event without being called racist !
Again, the administration most likely knows something we don’t about these students. There is no logical reason to be chanting “USA” while at a sporting event. You wouldn’t generally chant for your favorite sports team at a Presidential event, and you wouldn’t generally chant for “USA” at a high school sports game.
Now even the pledge of allegiance in School was said as one nation under alajha so as not to offend the one muslim in the school ?
And they did not wear flags ? unless I missed that ?
they had bandanas that had star stripes just like shirts that have flags on them etc…
They wore bandanas, and bandanas are included in the wearing of clothing/garments.
I don’t know why I’m actually responding to your post in detail because I said in my original post I did not feel the students need reprimanding and were exercising their rights in the process. 
Oh you mean criminals, i.e. illegal aliens. And we’re supposed to give a shit that they are offended because?
How multiculturally insensitive of you… 
Afterall they are not minorities they are emerging majorities. :rolleyes:
Ditto !
All the countries I have visited I have no problem if I went to a game and they chanted for their country
When I lived in Honduras I thought it was nice to hear some folks say how proud they were to be Honduranos as they called themselves
This whole notion is bullshit. This guy should be bitch slapped with a red, white and blue dildo on national tv.
So being in HS and proud of your country makes you racist !
And if ilegals are around we better be careful and not show pride for our country !
I thinking even a crappy lawyer could give him a “teachable moment” while taking cash from his pocket as well as the school district.
I’m not generally in favor of lawsuits, but I would make an exception for this asshat.
From the local newspaper.
The chants arose loud and clear, just as they had at thousands of sporting events through the years.
“USA! USA!” the spectators yelled. Usually it sounds as sweet and strong as the peel of a later-day Liberty Bell, evoking feelings of unity, good cheer and pride.
This time, not so much.
This time, it happened at a high school basketball game, of all places, and it carried nefarious undertones.
At best, it was naïve and insensitive. At worst, it was — Shall we say it? — ugly, vindictive racism.
It occurred last Wednesday inside the Camarillo High gymnasium, with the Scorpions playing host to arch rival Rio Mesa. On the line was the Pacific View League boys basketball championship…
Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/feb/11/camarillo-chants-toward-rio-mesa-anything-but/#ixzz2KwGDEOBq
This has happened here in TX last year also.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwl2v2-kw2A
That’s the problem! Cali has too many drones already!
Nationalism can only be racist if the policies and practices of the nation are racist. America being a “melting pot” of diverse races and cultures is probably one of the least racist nations in the world. Our president is black. We have black and Hispanic U.S. Supreme Court Justices. We’ve had a black female Secretary of State as well. We have no caste system and no special laws respective to restricting specific races. No position in local, state or federal government is restricted by race.
Chanting “USA” anywhere within the United States cannot be racist, unless you are also saying that the U.S. is a racist country, which is patently absurd on the face of it. I can see where in certain areas and under certain conditions, chanting “USA” might be viewed as xenophobic, but xenophobia is not racism. Those who consider this to be racism are flat out wrong. The school superintendent of the Oxnard Union School District is either ignorant or intentionally misusing the word “racial” in this context. Either way, his position as superintendent of an educational system demands that he be held to a higher standard. For that, I consider him an idiot of the highest order.
Now we have the editor of a local newspaper misusing the word, when their very job is supposed to be effective written communications. When the misuse of language by the very people expected to use it correctly in every instance possible becomes widespread, and is intended to shame or coerce others into modifying their behavior on a false premise, there is compelling evidence that it’s no longer ignorance, but willful misuse. Willful misuse of words or terms in presenting a single side of an issue has a correct definition as well:
Propaganda: As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political, religious or commercial agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of ideological or commercial warfare.
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This politically correct shit is bullshit. Just like Dr. Ben Carson said in his speach the other day, it is dangerous. What has this country come to? Regardless whether or not it was a highschool game and “USA” was being chanted, it is crazy to to call it racism. Why should any citizen of this or any country not be aloud to chant their home country at any event whether or not it is relevant to that particular event? And to then try and connect it to racism as to not offend an illegal or legal immigrant? That is just plain fucking crazy. This politically correct non-sense is slowly eroding away the 1st ammendment.
It hasn’t come to anything yet, but it damn sure seems like it’s falling apart at the seams.
What happened to the good 'ol days where a righteous ass whipping could be delivered without threat of reprrcussions?