Bren 2 MS, USA Version - is here per CZ-USA

CZ-USA says the civilian Bren 2 is here now. It is called Bren 2 MS.
Not more info yet - different fore end and ???
Wonder if they will be at the distributors and dealers in time for Christmas? No price points or quantities are mentioned.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7qGa9hko6/

I would love to play with a 7.62x39 version. It’s a winner if the gas system is adjustable for suppressed use. AK mags would be awesome but I can live with proprietary mags. I’m also interested in the 5.56 NATO version. I already have a SCAR 17, but I want a short-stroke 5.56 NATO rifle in my collection.

I have a full sized 805 Bren, so I’m in for a pistol of this new version if I can convert it to an SBR.

Yes, curious to see how this will roll out - lots of possibilities but not much info yet.
Here is a European link with more pictures of the Bren 2 MS -
https://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/semi-auto/cz-bren-2-ms.html

Have not found a distributor or dealer that lists them yet - curious about price point!

Lipsey’s and RSR distributors have then posted but out of stock. They will be here soon I think.00ACF22D-2766-4047-8269-8ACB1CED026F.jpg

The gas regulator is three position: Normal, Adverse, and Off. The Off setting simply lacks a hole and blocks gas from meeting the piston. It wouldn’t be too difficult to turn the Off setting into a Suppressed setting by drilling a small hole and gradually enlarging it while testing for function. CZ seems to be pretty good about selling spare parts as well, so a spare gas regulator for experimentation doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility.

I’d be interested if it took AK mags. If not, then I’ve owned enough proprietary mag guns that I’d avoid going that route again.

It does not take traditional rock in magazines. With the Bren 2 the magazine well can be modified by either removing or adding an insert. Takes standard AR type mags for 5.56 and CZ 7.62x39 mags that push in. Should also work with 7.62x39 mags that work with an AR if the mag well insert is used.
But no, it does not take “AK” mags.

It is possible to permanently modify magpul AK magazines to work with the 7.62x39 version. There’s a video on youtube showing a way to do this.

Anything to update either caliber?

I think the next news will probably come from Shot Show - sorry, I just don’t have an answer.

I would be very, very interested in a suppressed 7.62x39 SBR version.

It would make a very useful can opener.

I found this on CZ’s LE website.

https://youtu.be/9MMbSoCvU18

The video indicates a suppressor setting. Not sure if that means off or reduced gas port? Still waiting for them to start shipping. I’m pretty hot and bothered by the 308 version. But these look sweet and are available soon.

Anyone have any idea what the 922r count is on them? Mag parts and flash hider are easy on the 556 version. And with the 14” a pinned warcomp should get you to 16”.

I got one of the early Bren 2S models. It has three gas settings: normal, adverse, and off. It probably wouldn’t be hard to shoot it a few times in the off setting and use the carbon as a marker to drill your own suppressor setting. I’d wait until replacement parts are available first of course.

I emailed CZ USA about the gas port settings, and the rep could not answer the question. I guess we’ll know more at the Shot Show about the “newer” “Americanized” M2S model. Hopefully, Geisselle is working on a trigger for 922r

I’m with you SeriousStudent, I would love a suppressed 7.62x39 version. I know the Sig 553R uses AK mags but what the Bren 2 has to offer is better in terms of weight, parts, cost and ergonomics. Of course, maybe someday we’ll get Sako M92 pistols from Finland :wink:

Any news from SHOT 2019 about the release date for the Bren 2 in rifle configurations? I need the 5.56 and 7.62 BR badly!

SamM

The fact that you have to ask says a lot. You really have to hunt to find information about Brens from Shot Show. Why? Because Brens are not on the short list of important projects for CZ- USA.
There is nothing planned for USA imports of civilian Bren 2 BR (308) in 2019.
Bren 2 MS (5.56), no rifles this year, they don’t have the pistols yet, still working to import them.
They did not feature or promote the Bren line even thought the 805 is removed from their online inventory.
922r and stocks in 2019, probably not going to happen this year either.
Judging from the lack enthusiasm from CZ-USA, I’d say you should lower your expectations and move on.
I have one of the 300 Bren Pistols that we’re imported and I love it. I will move on to other things.

Type5, what (or who) specifically is your source for this information?

You will need to search YouTube videos - I spent lots of hours looking for and reviewing hours of videos beginning the day Shot Show opened. Currently, I have not found one in depth video about the Bren 2 MS - on CZ-USA INSTAGRAM channel, they said the Bren 2 MS is here. Where is here? What is here? A sample? I did not see any Bren Video from Range Day - hey, Video may be out there and someone hasn’t posted it. At the CZ-USA Booth, only the one example of the MS was shown in each case. They did mention 2 calibers and 3 barrel lengths for each caliber but there was one example - now I was not there and someone else may have seen 6 examples of each pistol they list. On video CZ-USA said Pelosi was holding it up - meaning they have not processed yet and are not available.
You may go to The Firearms Blog, scroll through their Shot Show coverage. There you will find CZ-USA told them no BR’s this year, they do not have the MS’s because of gov formalities, and there will be no MS Rifles or Carbines this year.
CZ-USA is producing the P10 Pistol now - lots of promotion and advertising for it. I am hyped on the Brens and I only hope that the MS will not be handled like the ACR. The Bren 2s is awesome and CZ REALLY dropped the ball - I hope at some point they decide to get behind the MS.
Until CZ-USA offers a BR and/or a MS with a stock or 922r kits, I am going to buy Brugger & Thomet products for the foreseeable future.

I saw a video last night that said the Government shutdown put a large part of their plan to release on hold. Left them up in the air.

Here is that video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G40z0hyju2k