Battle Rifle Company -- another evaluation by Tuohy

This is hard to even read.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/07/battle-rifle-company/

Some highlights:

About a hundred rounds later, we encountered another problem – a broken charging handle. I haven’t seen a whole lot of broken charging handles, and especially not after 900 rounds and hardly any manipulation of the charging handle (almost all reloads used the bolt catch). The break was at the forward most portion of the charging handle, where it fits over the gas key on the bolt carrier.

Another problem we encountered was that the muzzle device quickly began to fracture and by 1200 rounds eventually separated from the rifle

and my favorite:

Chris told me about a Marine sniper who had a problem with his issued rifle. None of the Marine armorers could fix it, so he was given permission by his commanding officer to buy a commercial rifle. The Marine bought a BR4 and was allowed to deploy with it. Chris told me that the sniper made “twenty or thirty kills” with the rifle.

:fie:

I’ve followed BRC since Andrew Tuohy’s first article and I too wanted to see them succeed. I no longer feel this way; a company owner willing to fabricate/pass along asinine statements (lies) about confirmed kills to bolster his product is a nearly sure sign that he is willing to sham elswhere, e.g. rifle component specs. IIRC the owner made similar statements a year ago, but I chalked it up to misguided boasting born of inexperiencemand/or watching too many B grade war flicks from the 80’s and/or bad advice. A year of constructive advice later and he sticks to the silly testimonial. No thanks.

I really thought it was going to be a bunch of fluff, but I read it while I had coffee this morning. Holy cow, what an honest and somewhat scathing evaluation.

It’s awesome he ended with such a BS story from the rep. The sad part is that there may have been a legitimate customer that made up that story and the rep believed him.

I’m really torn as to what is worse: Them outright fabricating the story, or them being so stupid and naive to believe such a tale.

The more I think about it, combined with the fact they apparently can’t even use Google–let alone take an armorers class, think it might be the latter. But you know, this is also the company that said:

Each Battle Rifle is put together by a Master Armorer with years of experience. Proprietary components are fabricated to tight tolerances so that the fit is cleaner and enhances functionality. Upper and lower Receivers are matched and fitted to maintain tight fit. All of the internal components are buffed, filed, polished or smoothed to make them fit perfectly.

If Bushhamster is making you look like amateur hour, it’s probably time to pack your bag and close up shop.

A really good review. Also, thanks for turning me on to the site. Good informative articles to be read there.

“On a related note, Chris told me about a Marine sniper who had a problem with his issued rifle. None of the Marine armorers could fix it, so he was given permission by his commanding officer to buy a commercial rifle. The Marine bought a BR4 and was allowed to deploy with it. Chris told me that the sniper made “twenty or thirty kills” with the rifle. - See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/07/battle-rifle-company/#sthash.dDcif58s.dpuf”

Ok, I’ve heard enough. Jesus. And this was after he KNEW his words would be on the internet. Amazing.

If he would have just left out that statement I think most of us would have been impressed with the steps they’re taking to improve their product.

If we’re lucky a small market downturn will flush some of the turds down the memory hole…

I loved one of the comments:

These guys area a complete joke. The worst of the worst. They don’t even deserve credit for trying to “improve” their product. I live in Houston and I see gun stores trying to sell these
things and they are all $1700 and up. Their .308 rifles are over $2200. If they had PSA prices I’d tell them to try harder. Since they charge Larue prices, Id tell them to **** themselves.

So true

Lets not forget that this is the company that also said this about their improper use of hand guards on their rifles.

Remember, boys & girls- Buy the rifle. Not the story

This! If you want a firearm with lots of confirmed kills, buy a Hi-Point…

After watching new companies pop up and then get a shill to come here telling tales of “fit and finish”, “super secret special assembly”, “better alloys”, and (this type of crap I hate the most)“We had our gun tested by a Navy SEAL that wore a Green Beret while working with Force Recon Marines while jumping out of a AC-130 with the 101st Rangers” I’ve decided that I won’t trust any new companies and know that I could miss some new innovative stuff. In the long run that means I have a much much lower chance of getting screwed.

This is another example of how insane and ludicrous the AR market has become. The fact that these guys showed up with probably what they thought were their best built ARs and failed so fantastically should be the last nail in their coffin. If you can’t get a flash hider to stay together then it’s time to hang it up. People get upset when they come here and start a thread on a new company’s AR they just bought and are told by the majority here that the build quality, materials, or lack of specs isn’t up to snuff. This article/story/review is why.

I would never have even considered purchasing this POS. The reviewer has my respect for giving them a chance though.

Couldn’t be put any more clearly.

That shredded muzzle device tells you everything you need to know about this product. Frankly, I’m not much interested in hearing about the changes they’ve made. Anyone that would put out the garbage they presented at shot show is not anyone I’d want to business with. To boot, their big changes were for shit as their product is still a mess.

10-4… I saw the stuff they had at shot. I had the same reaction as the author of that story.

Andrew Tuohy is one of the most honest, knowledgeable, and detail-oriented AR gurus on the internet. And he has many more awesome interests, to boot.

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The thing I picked up most from the article is how Andrew stated that 9310 is a better material for bolts than C158. I have heard this from a few others in the know.