ATF Prosecutes Ohio Man for AR Pistol with Brace

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Interesting write up of U.S. v. Wright, in which the northern Ohio man was charged with a series of violations regarding pistol brace. The ATF alleges that he added parts created a Short Barreled-Rifle, which the defendant did not register - https://www.range365.com/atf-prosecutes-ohio-man-for-ar-pistol-with-brace?src=SOC&dom=fb&fbclid=IwAR0kBSAQWe53fFHMrZzpqo3F2zlQHegzM7dpEcs9yYHBkvRrmJM8M11pwsw

The Prince law firm article about all this - https://blog.princelaw.com/2018/10/28/atf-unhinged-prosecutions-made-up-out-of-whole-cloth-you-might-be-next/?fbclid=IwAR0ftqPLaEoQL7aRMRaDqKSJsqRHNdadGlFmPCGPL_O7MzaL9Nk3ah4a5oA

MOD EDIT: he was found NOT guilty.

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I didn’t see anything in the articles about if this was part of other charges? Why did they charge this guy? Lot’s of braces out there. My guess is that they wanted him on something and this is what they could find, hoping that he might cop a plea.

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I read on another site that he’d modified the brace by adding some type of rubber pad with paracord. If true, he may have got lucky because IIRC their stance since the original Sig brace hit the market was no modifications could be made.

Another reason to repeal the NFA entirely and let people put whatever barrel length they want on whatever lower they want with no govt involvement.

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This. All day long. What the hell difference does it make if my barrel is 16" or 15"? Or 10"? Stupid stupid law.

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In the blog it says the jury deliberated over lunch and found him not guilty.

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I think the major problem here is the government/ATF lawyers fought against the defense showing the determination letters from the ATF that braces were “okay” to the jury.

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Every government employee that was involved in prosecuting this law abiding citizen on these stupid technicalities needs to be fired. What a ridiculous waste of time, money and resources.

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The ‘pistols’ with braces are an interesting option for those of us in states where the CCW is restricted to just handguns. Though I don’t doubt that a Denver cop would crap himself if I had a Zenith MP5 clone with a brace slung under my jacket.

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That’s the only reason to have an AR pistol, well- that and you can keep an AR pistol with a round chambered in the vehicle while transporting as well. Not so much for a rifle or Long gun.

I’m all for Abolishing the NFA. I’m all for abolishing 90% of the Federal alphabet agencies in existence as well.

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Because “Bonnie and Clyde”…almost 100 years ago…

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Came here to see if this was posted.

I am curious to see “the rest of the story” Was this just one segment that wanted to try to screw somebody or is it part of a larger move to close so called loop holes.

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I wonder how many youtube videos he made featuring him shouldering his brace?

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Determination letters (that they didn’t want submitted) have stated that is legal.

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Somewhere in Facebook land I saw a pic of the pistol in question… it was quite the abomination. I’ve tried in vain to find the pic again.

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I have to agree. It’s still a gray area. I remember when Streetsweeper shotguns were suddenly “destructive devices.” I personally knew a couple of guys who had to scramble to find out their legal options.

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I want to be a juror on one if these cases.

Andy

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Years ago I attended an OSHA 30 Hour course taught by a retired OSHA inspector. While discussing letters of interpretation he told us to never write OSHA to ask if this is a recordable injury or is this a violation. Because the answer, iregardless of the facts, will inevitably be “yes”.
I surmise the same is with ATF.

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Old and outdated. Time to be progressive and repeal NFA.
What me and my consenting adult have in our bedroom is no ones business.
End size descrimination
#allsizesmatter

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Jury Nullification