AR Mags

[KevinB]

Its not a chest rig - its a Kifaru E&E, I run a CIRAS Martitime, the E&E has got essentials…

The Magpul PMags I have all have the red spring.

[m.adams]

@toddackerman

Where can you find the Ken Elmore red springs?

http://www.specializedarmament.com/

Try a search for “RED”

[SIMPLYDYNAMIC]

Quick check in on the P-MAG:

I have been T&Eing for Magpul and I have 20 P-mags (mix of Black and Smoke) and I have put over 30,000 rds through the 20 mags now through as many different weapon systems as I could and I have had only 4 problems (3 busted lugs on the bolt and the other the gas rings went out) So not one problems with the mags since the beginning of testing. One mag I have put over 6000 rds through now. Maybe its just my luck but my team hasent had any reported problems of wear, malfunctions, or spreading (I also have been doing caliper checks)

I did have 2 REV-1 Pmags go down a while back but I did a combat dive in the salt water with them loaded with 30rds and didnt get a chance to fire them for 2 weeks later, (just neglect) the springs coroaded and only about the last 15rds would feed. I cleaned them, put new springs in and were new again.

You wont find me or anyone around me in team using anything else.

[Hawkeye]

As SD has pointed out, PMags suck. Please send all you have to me for disposal. I will pay shipping for you.

[Indy5000]

This is an awesome thread and I have learned a great deal as I have on other threads here. My brother and I are starting out from scratch in the AR arena and based on research here, we purchased two ADS Middies from Grant. The question for this thread is: if you were starting out from scratch like we are…what Mags would you start stocking up on?

I know everyone has their own personal collection/likes/dislikes but if you were starting over what would you do? For us it isn’t so much the money but spending the money right the first time.

Thanks!!!

[mat10x]

just looked at the C Products site. whats the difference between the “green”, "orange’ and “grey” followers. what’s the “anti-tilt” business? all three come in either CS or SS, which is better?

thx.

[toddackerman]

@Indy5000

This is an awesome thread and I have learned a great deal as I have on other threads here. My brother and I are starting out from scratch in the AR arena and based on research here, we purchased two ADS Middies from Grant. The question for this thread is: if you were starting out from scratch like we are…what Mags would you start stocking up on?

I know everyone has their own personal collection/likes/dislikes but if you were starting over what would you do? For us it isn’t so much the money but spending the money right the first time.

Thanks!!!

Most might say PMAG’s, but I don’t have enough expereience or rounds through them like I do my USGI Mags. My choice is USGI Mags from D&H or the other USGI contractors. That being said, the one PMAG I do have has 3,000 fail free rounds.

[rifleshooter]

@mat10x

just looked at the C Products site. whats the difference between the “green”, "orange’ and “grey” followers. what’s the “anti-tilt” business? all three come in either CS or SS, which is better?

thx.

I am not sure from looking at C-Products Web. site if they are offering Stainless steel springs or chrome silicon springs in their Mags.

I do know Brownell’s offers the chrome silicon springs. But their Mags are $20 in Stainless or chrome silicon springs.

Their Carbon steel spring Mags are $18

All my Brownell’s and C-Products Mags have the green followers and I have had no problems.

If you do ever have a problem with any C-Products Mag. they quickly with no hassle will replace the Mag.

Same with Brownell’s never a hassle just quick replacements if ever needed on all their products.

[Iraqgunz]

In all honesty I would stock up on the Pmags. They are very well made and seem to take a beating. For the price (a few dollars more than aluminum) you are getting a good mag. I don’t think you can go wrong.

[rifleshooter]

@Iraqgunz

In all honesty I would stock up on the Pmags. They are very well made and seem to take a beating. For the price (a few dollars more than aluminum) you are getting a good mag. I don’t think you can go wrong.

I have never had any problems with my many P-Mags even the early ones that Magpul recalled never failed me. I say they are quality and a good Mag. choice. Hey thousands maybe now it’s millions of them have been bought that should say something about Magpuls P-Mag quality.

I don’t work for Magpul or sell Magpul products. Just a small time user.

[45r]

@Iraqgunz

In all honesty I would stock up on the Pmags. They are very well made and seem to take a beating. For the price (a few dollars more than aluminum) you are getting a good mag. I don’t think you can go wrong.

Too bad I don’t life in a free state. I had a chance to handle one of the PMags and I’d take them over the HK steel or the USGI aluminum magazines any day of the week. They are built TOUGH!!!

Now if only they made 10 round magazines…:o

[Gunmetal]

@mat10x

just looked at the C Products site. whats the difference between the “green”, "orange’ and “grey” followers. what’s the “anti-tilt” business? all three come in either CS or SS, which is better?

There are others here who can probably answer better but since I haven’t seen anyone address your questions directly yet, here is my understanding… if I’m wrong, I’m sure I’ll be corrected.

“Green” is the USGI follower, which does prevent tilting of the top round in one direction but not both directions. i.e., it will prevent a depression of the cartridge base, but not a nosedive-type tilt. That is off the top of my head but it’s either that way, or the reverse.

The MagPul orange/grey followers will prevent tilting in either direction and are highly recommended. AFAIK there is no diff. between the orange/grey other than the color. Orange may make it easier for you to see (thru the ejection port) that you are at lockback or that you just whipped out an empty mag, but that presumes you have sufficient light to rely on visual indicators. I have no idea what other reasons someone might prefer one over the other (any comments?).

Springs: AFAIK the GI springs are SS, which are more resistant to corrosion but do not last as long (in terms of spring fatigue) as chrome silicon springs.

FWIW, I would steer clear of the C-Products mags when you can get different, better mags for roughly the same price (and yes, I have personally had issues with CP mags). c.f. D&H, DSG, PMags, NHMTG.

[Jack_Stroker]

After seeing the video of the guy driving his Chevy truck over a PMag I decided to give them a try. Not only do they feed more reliably in all my AR-15’s but the seat properly fully loaded. My H&K and USGI mags did not always do that. I’ve put a few hundreds rounds through mine so far and I’ve even dropped a couple by mistake. So far not a single malfunction using them in 3 different AR-15’s. Right now they are my magazine of choice. For the price, they just can’t be beat.

I think they are the best magazine for the AR-15 on the market today.

[AirmanAtwood]

@VA_Dinger

IMO: HK mags are undeniably the “Best” mags available - Hands down.

Not everybody has a “Need” for this good of a mag though and they are expensive (Even at $30-$35 each). But, in my opinion they are worth $35 each just for the piece of mind.

I know we have all read the negative “Reviews” (And I use this term loosely) on “other” forums but I would not give two cents for their opinion. Anybody who states they are less durable than a standard GI mag has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Hell, I seriously question if they have even been within ten miles of an actual HK mag. It’s nothing but waste of bandwidth BS.

I’m not saying GI mags are worthless by any means. Hell, I own plenty that work like a champ.

do you imply that they are better than Pmags?

[gyp_c2]

      If there isn't an issue with the PMAG lips, why do we need amother piece of plastic to worryabout (the Mag cap). Looking forward to getting mine in the mail anyday to test it out.             

…dust covers…
I had three loaded from the first LAV class in September '07…I used them in the LAV '08 class a year later and they worked perfectly…sand and all…
Thanks Magpul-Dudes…!
Truly the little covers are nice to keep the trash out…leaving 30 loaded for a year riding in a black bag in the Jeep didn’t faze them…oh yeah, Black Mags in 'd Black Bag…Their stuff is great and they are real gun guys too…
Although… Dr Drake frequently disappears on the line due to heavy MultiCam…

gyp_c2…aka…“slim”

[Dr_Quickdraw_Mcgraw]

@AirmanAtwood

do you imply that they are better than Pmags?

i believe you will find that that was written well before pmags were commonplace.

[decodeddiesel]

Good grief, does anyone bother to look at the flipping date on a thread before they post to it?!?!?!?!

Most of the data here is old and outdated.

[AirmanAtwood]

@Dr_Quickdraw_Mcgraw

i believe you will find that that was written well before pmags were commonplace.

my mistake, I didn’t look at the post date.

[JeffWard]

I guess the P-Mag ended this debate over a year ago…

LOL

Jeff

[uwe1]

Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I wanted to ask for clarification from more experienced members about something I read in this thread regarding PMAGs. Specifically where one of the attendees (G_M) reports Kyle Defoor’s opinion on them.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=52274

One More Thing…
There was one thing that Kyle and Brian had mentioned during a lecture about magazines. They talked about their opinion of Pmags and Kyle even said “The Tan ones are the worst”. I was supprised at what they said but kept it in mind.

There was then a picture attached with a crack in the feedlips. Is there some inherent problem with PMAGs that I’m not aware of?