Now, how the heck do I get in line?
Interesting. Someone on another site contacted Bushmaster and the MSRP is $2700. Not sure what configuration that includes though.
Spooky
Holy crap! A fully loaded SCAR is cheaper than that…and it has SOCOM adoption.
I dont trust MSRP prices anyways, for instance Ruger SR556 was MSRPed at $2000 but street price was $1400-1500. Then again we are taking other peoples word for the price without the official debut. Once I see it in the street priced in store I will believe it. The high price is probably the “enhanced”
Bushmaster also quoted someone $1500…we will have to see tomarrow at SHOT. $2,000 or greater is too high for me.
At $2700 the SCAR will out sell the ACR easy, and the SCAR is not selling that great… The Peoples Rifle. :rolleyes:
Jeremy
If you use your logic and example then the ACR will run about $2200. Still too much in my mind…
And there is no official word yet on final barrel twist. Someone on TOS posted a Bushmaster catalog that had all barrels as 1/9" twist…
Spooky
Maybe $2700 is the loaded version
Also, I’m looking all over the place for a SCAR, and can’t find one cheaper than $2800 THAT IS IN STOCK.
Yes they are 1:9" twist according to the catalog, there’s a big deal about it in the other ACR thread. Doesnt bother me personally I have all 55gr stuff. Remmy’s site still shows 1:7"
Again the price we are operating on is still hearsay “someone said they called bushmaster and they said…” etc. I’ll believe it when I see it.
I also don’t like the fact that there is no 16" barrel, they went with 18". For all of us who can not SBR I would rather have as short as I can legally own.
LAst gun show I went to I saw SCAR’s for 2500 on average
I’m personally interested in the barrel set-up. This is touted to have quick change barrels - so is the LMT MRP but the MRP is limited to barrels from LMT. If you can take any barrel off the shelf and bolt on the gas piston part then the whole barrel issue is a moot point - you could have darn near any configuration, length, material, etc because there are so many AR barrels out there. If it is proprietary then the barrel issue becomes a pretty big deal.
I’ve seen a few SCARs out there around $2500 but that’s the lowest I’ve seen and I haven’t seen many at that price.
Spooky
ACR uses AR15/M16 barrels, but different gas system components put on it, as well as the barrel nut and ratchet system also. They use a midlength gas system so youll need gas ports drilled for a middy (except the 10.5" barrel which is drilled with the carbine length). Since the factory barrels appear to be govt profile, then you’ll have to select a govt profile barrel possibly.
Buds Gun Shop sells SCARs even for $2250ish, but I’ve never seen them in stock.
Are you 100% sure on the ACR barrels? Not saying you can’t be right but there is so much misinformation out there that I’m going to wait a few more days to get the finalized details. We’ve waited so long what’s couple more days?
Spooky
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The Bushmaster E-Newsletter linked in the OP specifically states a 16-1/2" barrel under “Starting Configuration”; I believe the 10.5", 14.5" and 18" lengths shown under “Fully Modular Design” are options/alternatives.
in the Future Weapons episode they said when designing the ACR after starting out with the M16, the only thing left was the trigger group, front sight post, and the barrel.
looks a heck of a lot similar to an AR/M16 barrel:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/piston_4-tfb.jpg
The barrel looks like an M4 profile - don’t know why they’d have the M203 notch in it unless they are just using barrels that are on hand. And it shows that is probably not located in the “normal” midlength position.
Spooky
it is in the midlength position, a M4 carbine barrel has extra space between its gas block and the notch, here the gas block is adjacent to the M203 notch.
plus it says it here, the first owner of a consumer ACR that auctioned it in the AAC Silencer Shoot charity auction:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/18/bushmaster-acr-photos/
If it is a 1x9 twist barrel, at the SHOT show, would someone kindly take a spare barrel and beat the Bushmaster people about the head and shoulders with it.
Sometimes I think the camel came about because the Bushmaster people got the blueprints for a horse.