I was wondering if any members here have experience with the above vehicle. I switched from Honda to Nissan back in 2015 and regretted it. Looking to upgrade my Altima and purchase a 2021 Honda LX Accord.
These vehicles have a 1.5 L turbo engine and a CVT transmission.
Supply is obviously bit low. I’ll have to get on a waiting list for about six weeks. Buying a certified used one makes no sense. Price difference is minimal.
My personal opinion from 20 years in the automotive industry, you couldn’t pay me to own any vehicle with a CVT transmission. Now Honda “may” have gotten this one right but nobody has up to now in over 15 years. That’s my personal opinion though.
The CVT is what makes me reluctant to trip the trigger on the purchase. The CVT in my 2015 Altima is total crap. It caused a class action lawsuit I was hoping Honda engineering was a bit better
I’ve had consistent bad luck with Honda, and mediocre luck with 1/1 of Nissans. I’ve owned 3 Hondas, my father owned 1 in the same time frame, 2/3 of mine and 1/1 of his were lemons, including my 2001 Accord EX.
Toyota has consistently good quality. If they make anything you like, in this class of car I’d buy Toyota. The Camry is fairly boring but it just works. After that I’d look at Ford and GM but concede their small cars aren’t always that good. 3/3 of GM full size trucks have been great, and nearly flawless for me, easily the best vehicles I’ve owned from a quality, reliability and durability perspective.
Subaru also makes good cars, but I would only buy one if the AWD is useful to you. If you’re in the south it’s not really that useful, so basically a waste of money with potential future repair and maintenance costs.
Toyota Camry
We used to buy hondas, but my wife’ 2019 CRV had issues
Go Toyota. Honda isn’t what it used to be.
Go with the Toyota Camry IMO as well. If I every buy a Honda it’ll be a Type R w/ a manual.
I’ve had 7 or 8 Hondas in the past and 1 Toyota. All have been solid, not a 1 had any major issues. The wife drives a MDX now, what I consider a glorified Honda and loves it. I just sold my 20 Tacoma earlier this week. With 31k on it they paid me 2k less than I bought it for new. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy either again. I have no experience with Nissan besides knowing the CVTs are junk in them.
Most CVTs seem to be hit or miss. Honda, Subaru, Nissan, Toyota… If you’re leasing or you typically don’t hold on to new cars for a long time it doesn’t matter. CVT can last 30k or 130k
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I appreciate the info. I was looking at a Camry but can’t stand the look of the front end. Reminds me of a fish
I’m not a fan of honda transmissions unless they are manual. Also, their new Earth Dreams engines are direct injection garbage. I wouldn’t touch one and recommend you don’t either. That’s my honest opinion.
If you want a Honda, find one sans CVT and direct injection.
I’d steer clear of any car made by GM as well.
I dont own a Honda but have a few newer models in the immediate family/friends circle. All have been very reliable vehicles. The only problem I can think of is my mother in laws CRV having the rear hatch button go out. The CVTs arent what you want if you are looking for a responsive sporty drive but for commuter cars they have been smooth, quiet, efficient, and reliable. The Nissan CVT was known to be bad.
If you are worried about the CVT, the Accord also comes with 2.0 liter turbo which is a detuned version of the Civic Type-R motor. That one comes with a regular type transmission and is supposed to be surprisingly quick.
Just an fyi, we recently bought my wife a 2022 Hyundai Pallisade and that has been an incredible car. If the Sonata has anywhere near the build quality of the Pallisade, it’ll be a worthy contender.
Honda’s have been good to me, I would by another. My current stick shift Civic has 128k and still runs strong. The AC is pretty much hot breath but I don’t live in AZ. I would mind getting a suped up Civic R.
CVT hater here. Got a 2015 Nissan rogue last year. Decent used car but didn’t know what a CVT really was when I bought it for my daughter. I see Honda and Hyundai/KIA are really starting to use CVT. Not a fan and will never own another. Wife was looking at Hondas but I’m leaning towards the Acura ILX instead just to get away from the CVT.
David
My sister bought a 14 Rouge new in 2014. It’s served her well so so far so good but she still hasn’t reached 100k. Maybe high 80s.
Hyundai does make traditional transmissions you just have to want that specific model. When I was looking for a car for my mom in the fall of 19 I was looking at the Hyundai Kona AWD. The 2.0 base model had a traditional automatic trans. The 1.6 turbo had the CVT. So they’re out there, or at least were.
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I’m in the same boat- Honda’s aren’t what they used to be- I’m looking a Mazdas too, along with Kia, the Koreans have really upped their hame.
They total pretty quick if rearended…
CVTs aren’t what they used to be. Older CVTs were indeed terrible, New ones are extremely reliable however.
Many older car people hate them. But it is like hating Automatic transmissions because the rob you of all your power.
Sure it was true at one point. But not now.
As for the Accord, they are great cars. If I was to buy a mid sized sedan currently it would probably be a Toyota Camry though. The mid sized car market is shrinking quickly. Demand is way down as people shift to small crossovers.
Speaking of that, have you considered a crossover? I bought a Honda CRV last year and just traded it for a brand new RAV4 Hybrid last month. I can honestly say that I will never go back to a sedan again.
I’m an L1 Master Tech and I pushed everyone towards Honda for a long time.
Currently, I simply tell anyone who asks that everything offered by every manufacturer on the planet is a “throw away vehicle”. Drive it, don’t waste money on over maintenance and replace it. I don’t even service my wife’s vehicle since it’s pointless. She goes to the dealer for some dimwit monkey to replace fluids. It’s that absurd. Keep fluids in operating range and then throw the vehicle in the garbage after a few years.
Who buys sedans any more? What’s the point? Mazda is the company to beat right now. Get a cx5 and call it a night.
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