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Last edited by GRA556; 04-04-24 at 17:18. Reason: double post mistake
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I keep seeing this thread get posts. These don't make sense. 7.62x39 is more expensive than 5.56 I heard. So more recoil, shitty ammo, shitty accuracy. What's the appeal?
"What would a $2,000 Geissele Super Duty do that a $500 PSA door buster on Black Friday couldn't do?" - Stopsign32v
The appeal: it's cool.
From what I can tell, 5.56 and x39 is about even now. Some brass x39 is the same. Also, Wolf is not crap and often outshoots Hornady.
Some folks have stockpiled x39 high when prices were 1/2 what they are now. [did it make MORE sense 5 years ago? Yup].
A DI system can eek out 1.5-2 MOA compared to double with a decent AK. Some like a bolt hold open, and ergos of the AR or just something different. ARs just have more standard stuff, asy rail solutions, and again the DI yields generally better accuracy.
DI guys want piston guns. Piston guys want DI. Its Murica.
Last edited by m4brian; 04-04-24 at 17:16.
Some states prohibit any sort of hunting with any round that is .22 -based. 7.62x39 is an excellent deer and hog round in thick woods and brush. The recoil isn't that much more and the accuracy is far better in an AR, and/or PTR 32, than an AK. As for ammo the 7.62x39 made in the Balkans is excellent ammo, as is other brass casing 7.62x39 ammo.
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Why 7.62x39 on AR? Why does it have to be colt? I have money burning hole in my pocket? It is like trying to catch a mouse to put in pantry.
-TL
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Why a 7.62x39 AR15? Get one for the same reason you can get a 5.56x45 AK. You can and it's fun.
7.62x39 is not an inherently inaccurate cartridge. It's just that most of the cheap ammo that's been offered is made to lower quality standards. Quality 7.62x39 can hold its own.
I've seen plenty of shooting reviews where Wolf, Russian steel cased ammo outshoots Hornady or some other more expensive ammo. e.g. - just watched one where a short barreled 'AR 47" shot SUB MOA - and I think it was Wolf - so the 'hey its Russian steel so it sucks' thing is a misnomer.
Here is the other thing. Sure, you can get a Galil or a PTR do just about as good, BUT they are VERY heavy pigs, and cost a ton. Some guys are assembling reliable accurate ARs for several hundred, and they are 1-2 LBS lighter.
And yes, a VZ 58 is a totally great weapon, light, and almost AR accurate (at least a tad closer), but its > $1500 and the aftermarket support is quite limited and the trigger is just NOT in the same ballpark.
Last edited by m4brian; 04-05-24 at 08:24.
One thing to remember about Wolf is that it's just a brand. Wolf branded ammunition has come from all sorts of factories. Quality and accuracy can vary greatly. I reload, so when I pulled the bullets from some Russian steel cased (forget what it was in particular) and found huge variances in the powder charges it told me two things. First, there was no way that 7.62x39 ammunition was going to produce tight groups. It's not the cartridge. It's the quality of assembly. Second, a large amount of variance in the powder charges can still produce accuracy that's acceptable for military use.
220Russian evolved from 7.62x39 and is the parent case of 22PPC and 6mmPPC, so there's inherent accuracy in the family.
That's true. 5.56x45 would be cooler.
7.62x39 is not appealing to me anymore. Large primer and limited bullet selections. No problem with Soviet surplus arms as they were born with that. But on an AR, I'd rather do 300 blackout. Much easier.
If I have to have 7.62x39 AR, I'd get upper from other budget manufacturers than colt. Does the same thing at lower cost.
-TL
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