WY - Adopting Vermont style CCW? House OK's Bill!!!

http://www.trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/article_54fc4c9e-a17b-5af6-8dda-1a9054aeeb79.html

CHEYENNE – A House committee on Tuesday signed off on two proposals that would loosen Wyoming gun laws.

Under one bill approved by the House Judiciary Committee, a permit would no longer be required to carry a concealed weapon in Wyoming. A second bill, which committee members passed unanimously, asserts that firearms made, sold and kept in Wyoming are exempt from federal gun control regulations.

Under House Bill 113, anyone who meets the current requirements to obtain a concealed-weapons permit from the state would be allowed to carry concealed weapons – except that proof of firearms training would no longer be required.

The House Judiciary Committee voted 6-2 to recommend approval of the bill after a testimony by spokesmen from pro-gun groups and other supporters. If the bill passes, Wyoming would become only the third state in the nation, after Vermont and Alaska, to allow conceal-carry without a permit.

Sponsor Rep. Elaine Quarberg, R-Thermopolis, says she believes the state and federal constitutions spell out that Wyoming residents have the right to carry concealed guns without needing government permission.

Rep. Joe Barbuto, D-Rock Springs, voted against the bill.

“I’m a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights,” Barbuto said. “I don’t think anybody around this table could accuse me of being a bleeding-heart liberal.”

However, Barbuto said he’s happy with the current permit system, which has law enforcement review permit applications.

“I don’t think we need to take away that accountability,” Barbuto said.

Rep. John Patton, R-Sheridan, cast the other vote against the bill. He said that despite being a gun owner himself, he didn’t see how passing the bill would help with the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness in the state.

Anthony R. Bouchard, spokesman for the Wyoming Gun Owners Association, told the committee he wants to see the conceal-carry bill move forward.

Bouchard said his group sees no need to require training for Wyoming citizens who would carry concealed guns. A lot of people in the state are ranchers who grew up with guns and handle them daily, he said.

States that have gun control have “50,000 gang-bangers walking around carrying guns,” Bouchard said.

The committee voted to specify that people who are mentally incompetent or who have been committed to mental institutions wouldn’t be allowed to carry concealed guns.

The second bill, the Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act, is similar to legislation passed in Montana and Tennessee and introduced in 14 other states asserting that firearms that are made in the states and never leave the states are exempt from federal law. Gun advocates in Montana have filed suit against the federal government to test the law.

Under the legislation, any federal or state official who tries to enforce a federal gun law upon a Wyoming-made firearm could serve up to a year in prison and pay a $2,000 fine.

The bill specifies that Wyoming-made firearms can’t be bought or owned by convicted felons, people judged legally incompetent, or those who have been committed to mental institutions. The legislation also prevents people under 21 from buying Wyoming-made firearms.

If passed, the effect of the Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act would mostly be symbolic, as Wyoming’s gun manufacturing industry is limited to a handful of small companies.

Gov. Dave Freudenthal told reporters on Tuesday that he is “not uncomfortable” with the proposed Firearms Freedom Act. However, he said he had “mixed” feelings about allowing conceal-carry without a permit.

“If it gets to me, I’ll sure take a look at it,” Freudenthal said of the conceal-carry bill.

Absolutely brilliant!!!

AZ - Similar story there: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=46336&highlight=vermont+carry

and the feds said NO WAY??? Not the CCW part but guns made and kept in Wyoming… Just wondering… IMHO All gun laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL and the people who enforce them should be made criminals… I know 'ill stir up a pot-o-crap with that statement but thats just me

Read the article, 14 other states have legislation pending to that effect. This thread is about the CCW aspect and not whether you can build a gun in your state and not register it with the Feds.

about weapons made and kept in Wyoming… They wouldn’t be subject to federal regs… I remember a couple states passing almost the same things and the feds had a fit…

I miss Wyoming a little more each day… This would only be a problem for those who reside there and need a permit from their state of residence to carry in other states such as Michigan.

Buckaroo

A valid point. Hopefully more states will be headed this way with Vermont and Alaska, Arizona has something in the works right now. Currently I believe some of the best states for reciprocity include Utah, Florida & Nevada but it’s been a while since I’ve done much in the way of research where that’s concerned.

Good luck to them, it sure is nice to not have to bother with such nuisances as Permits.:wink:

Why do all the cold states get no permit carry?!?! :slight_smile:

No idea but I’m not about to complain :smiley:

RancidSumo- A Proud Wyoming Resident

If everything goes well you might have a neighbor… then again AZ is going the same route and it’s warm there :wink:

Us Tennessians’ also have something in the works on par to the gun’s made at home exemption. Hope it goes through.

Utah just passed the “State made” gun laws, and our CCW is good for almost all states. For some stupid reason NV dropped reciprocity though. Good to know our neighbor is keeping up the fight. With so many states passing similar
Maker laws this might just work out! Yeah to SBR’s without stamps!

We did with UT & FL. There are threads here that go into depth & detail as to the reasons. Suffice it to say it wasn’t a popular decision.

All the cold States get free carry because it is too cold for “Gang Member Types”. You don’t see Thugs on the corner with their, “Pants on the ground” when it’s below freezing outside. Also, not to sound racist, but we are the Whitest States with the lowest Violent Crime stats.:slight_smile:

Alaska has a huge gang & drug problem according to the report I watched a few months ago.

Hmmm… Maybe that is so. That said, I suppose I should do my research a little better.

Yeah, I know why (learned it here - been lurking around a LONG time) but I still think it was fairly bone-headed.

Silencers and machineguns cannot be taken into the game fields and forests of Wyoming.

Until this changes, this other stuff doesn’t mean shit.

It is a pain in the ass to travel to Wyoming during a hunt and decide whether or not to bring silencers such as when I go antelope hunting and want to prairie dog hunt after I have filled my antelope tag. I cannot shoot up wind and use a silencer to control my muzzle blast and dust kick up during prairie dog hunting.

I also cannot just go out and shoot because I’m in WY for hunting, I am in the “game fields and forests” with a silencer but I am not hunting. However, WY law makes no distinction between the two.

I wish Colorado had the proper representatives in place to at least challenge the restrictions in Denver.

I disagree with you wholeheartedly. An American being able to exercise their Constitutional rights without having to pay a tax and getting permission from the government is a hell of a lot more important than you shooting a critter out in a field with a suppressor.