I bought an 870P w/o bbl for $80. I already had a SureFire forend and 18" bbl to use on the gun.
It was a 14" SBS and came with a 1 shot Wilson extension and 6 o’clock sling attachment. I swapped out the forend and couldn’t figure out why the action wouldn’t close! Then I saw a strange bend in the sling loop and thought how the hell did that bend. I wonder what some dumb ass did to bend that. Turns out I was the dumb ass! [emoji12]
It looks like it will come apart with snap ring pliers.
Have any you taken one apart? Wilson was closed when I called. I did a few searches and couldn’t find any info. Looks like I can remove the sling attachment and run it w/o it. I will eventually get a left side version. I plan to SBS this in my name.
I don’t have a Wilson/Scattergun extension with a sling plate anymore, but I had the distinct impression that they did not come apart (as opposed to the Vang Comp extensions).
I had a similar issue with sling plate/forend interference - not the Surefire forend - and opted for the +1 extension having a QD stud at the end of the extension instead of a plate, but I don’t think that style would play well with the Surefire setup either, because of the possibility of the sling/swivels getting in the way of the lamp’s head and maybe causing a short stroke.
The SF fore end will probably be on the EE soon. It’s a great light and wicked bright I just don’t see it working for me. I want my sling and mag extension back!
The SF forend has never been a good “fit” for my wants, which is a shame, as it is a neat, somewhat streamlined solution to putting a light on an 870. I make do with an old GG&G forend which is essentially a modified Speedfeed that has a short length of picatinny rail on the right side.
I just dug through my box o’ crap and did find a Wilson/Scattergun +1 that I didn’t give away. Even with the c-clip removed, I don’t think the sling plate will come off the extension without being cut through or bent enough to open it up a bit. Now that I think about it, I believe that lack of being removable was why I was going to get a Vang extension until someone told me that the plates on the Vangs had a little more play than the Wilsons. I could get the Wilsons cheap at the time, and they work well enough.
It should bend back without too much work hardening, as that looked like a pretty gentle bend.
Yeah, those stand-alone side sling mount plates that fit between the magazine end cap and the lug on the barrel do also have the opening on the bottom while the vertical versions don’t have the opening. I stay away from those “sandwiched” plates because the tolerance stacking between some of the 870 receivers and barrels that have come and gone over the years left too few threads engaged to make me comfortable with reducing the thread contact by putting a plate in between them (I’m paranoid that way). Having the plates mounted on the extensions is the way to go as far as cap-to-tube thread engagement is concerned (IMO).
Back when I was still intending to use an 18" 870P as my “utility gun” (the long gun that would be kept within reach in the house and also travel with me), I went through a lot of different mag extensions and sling attachments. None of them turned out to be perfect in reality, despite most of them having a lot of fans. The two that finally won the coin toss were the Wilson/Scattergun +1 I am currently using and a parkerized Remington factory +2 kit (the one with an extension assembly and a clamp assembly) that I keep around because I may decide I need the extra round someday.
Thanks TOC. It’s good to hear what’s working. This one shot extension is 17 years old and going working well. I should replace the magazine spring. The gun has been loaded 24/7 for this 17 years too!
That particular shotgun is run with a detachable single-point sling from Blue Force Gear. It’s the only weapon I have with a single point, and it works well for it’s designated purpose.
I tried a GG&G or similar sling mount that goes between the end of the receiver and stock and this extension and hated it. I think my next move will be a single point sling too. The blue force two point felt very strange while operating the action. An old school standard sling might be worth a try too. I have a few simple AR silent slings kicking around.
Have you taken a look at the Magpul barrel clamp mount setup? These two work pretty well together. If you run an SBS, the barrel length may make a difference, however.
I just checked them out. Looks great.
Is this removable to use a QD? I have one if the MagPul slings with the Paraclip attachment on a MOE carbine handguard. I like it. Its definitely more secure than the QD but it’s bulkier. Options are nice. Thanks. I’ll order the front sling swivel attachment and a rear QD with the MagPul stock.
I was skeptical, but you are correct. After seeing that, I rummaged through the box o’ crap annex and found another Wilson/SG +1, but with the LH sling plate… I remember giving away a different one. I removed the c-clip and nothing slid off - as I had experienced before. Since you got one apart, I forced the issue; I warmed it up and got out the brass hammer, and that broke loose the “ring” that was behind the c-clip.
So all this time I have thought those plates were not removeable, but the one - now two - I tried disassembling must have been sort of fused to the extension tube (due to parkerizing process?) and I just didn’t use enough force.
So I apologize to usmcvet for being less than accurate (i.e., WRONG) on those things not coming apart.
usmcvet, if you end up needing an unbent sling plate, PM me and you can have this one or the whole extension.
I’ll try to bend it back in place if it doesn’t come off.
