Ok guys I’m in talks via email with this company (which will remain nameless while doing so) regarding not shipping lowers to MD.
Now there are no laws that i’m aware currently that prohibit a lower to be shipped into MD. When I asked this company why their policy is not to ship they simply replied & I quote " Lowers have a adjustable stock".
I am waiting for a answer as to why they think this is illegal and if they are going to re-evaluate their policy so folks in MD can order their lower.
This lower is available 1 other place but I still feel like this needs to be addressed. Folks in MD have it hard enough as it is.
Anyone ever ran into something like this? Doesn’t have to be a lower but anything a company refused to ship because they thought it was illegal?
I will fill everyone in once I get my next response from said company or they ignore my last email. Either way if your interested I will post back then.
Hope I don’t seem like a ass for writing this, I LOVE this company and it caught me off guard when I found this out.
There are a number of companies that won’t ship to Maryland. The State laws are such a tangled mess for the insiders, that those out of state often don’t feel that the few sales they would get into Maryland is worth the headache. This is notably not uncommon with handgun dealers, Wideners comes immediately to mind, so no, I’m not surprised at all that other manufactures would do it also.
I know the frustration. Living in Cali, some companies won’t ship to me at all, others won’t ship to my county. I’ve learned that it has only a little bit to do with law. A lot of companies don’t want to deal with the hassle of finding a dealer who knows the laws and is comfortable dealing with black rifle shipments.
It might be easier for you to find a licensed dealer of that brand in your area. You will probably pay more to buy it off their shelves, but it’s worth it to have a facility in the neighborhood, even if it’s half an hour or more away. I’ve heard everything from “we don’t like to ship it there, since the rules are constantly changing and we don’t keep up to speed on our own” to flat out “no” and that’s that. Living in a restrictive state puts you at the mercy of the dealer and the availability of a cooperative FFL dealer, of which there tend to be few.
MA has their own assault weapons ban and you can’t have a post-ban collapsible stock on your rifle. Selling a lower (without a stock) is something many FFL’s won’t do in bordering states (to MA residents). Many companies don’t ship at all to MA.
I woudn’t fight the company. I’d boycott your state. The company is doing what they need to protect themselves.
Nah I actually wrote out Maryland. Oh believe me my States is not something i’m proud of but I see no reason to tell me something you will sell me off the rifle is the reason you won’t when it’s on the rifle.
I’m just looking for a honest answer is all and if anyone ever brought something like this to a company and actually had them change their policy.
Was checking out online from a neighboring State, When The Store Policy stated “No shipping to x,y,z States Including Wyoming due to restrictive firearms laws”
REALLY?
I called and asked, Person answering said “because” I asked for the Manager who checked the Stores website his reply basically was “WTF Over?” Website was changed and received my stuff in a week.
Kinda wonder how many previous sales they had lost.
Sometime the personnel enter Data don’t have a clue.:rolleyes:
Does Maryland have an “Assault Weapons” law?
If so and it looks like they do “Regulate” AR type weapons then I would not expect anyone to ship in a related item.
Find what you need/want in state and go from there…
Yeah your right on that part, been so long It is normal to me now. But believe me there is no law getting a AR here just like any of the FREE states out there.
I already have one, this isn’t about buying my first. Grant (G&R) will ship them right into MD so the OLD AWB is not the issue here.
Like I said if they would have just said “Because we won’t deal with MD” I would have accepted that. When you tell me it’s because it comes with a adjustable stock I didn’t like hearing that. It’s basically saying we won’t ship there because this lower comes with a perfectly LEGAL adjustable stock on it.
Oh Grant can and just did for a good friend of mine. Again I really just want to see if this company will either tell me they will not deal with MD just because or maybe change there policy.
I really just made this to see if anyone else has come across something like this happening and actually had luck making a company aware of the actual laws.
I’m not bashing the company thus no names mentioned but i’ve spent a lot there and I know others on here do as well.
Flash hiders, bayonet lugs, collapsable stocks and the rest of it are ok here.
NFA is legal in Maryland as well.
Any magazine over 20 rounds cannot be transferred, sold or otherwise given to another person in the state. Possession is not illegal, and many folks buy their mags out of state and bring them back.
You must be 21 to legally possess a Regulated Firearm, and the sale / transfer of said weapons are subject to a 7 day waiting period, as well as MSP paperwork.
You can try to educate the dealer or manufacturer, but at the end of the day they are running a business and have to cover themselves the best they can.
For some reason they are under the impression that the series of gun laws you are under prohibit their product. If you can find the laws that show its not an issue, email it to them and see if it helps. As other people have already posted, there are restrictions in your state, perhaps they are just looking at them as too tangled up to mess with.
I wish it were that friendly in CA! Even though it isn’t illegal to ship in a stripped lower, dealers (as in 99%) won’t import or accept out of state. The local one here that IS OLL friendly insists that the CA DOJ law requires a bullet button AND 10 round mag be attached to accept a stripped lower - which has nothing to do with the three laws that regulate. BUT, like everyone has said these people are just CYA and in CA that means a lot. Any gun business in state is subject to all sorts or harassment, legal and not, so I can’t blame businesses for wanting to stay that way. If it was your business I’d bet you’d do the same, I know I would. Good luck, but I’d move on and find a more friendly dealer.
