A Tennessee tourist is facing 3 years in a New York prison after doing the responsible thing and tried to check-in her firearm to a NYC police at the 9/11 memorial site. She possesses a carry permit in Tennessee. All kinds of bull shit with this. I do hope this ends up either as a soap-box tirade to push for a National carry permit law, or another case to get appealed to the supreme court (though that could also be a bad idea at the moment).
Not too long ago the head of the Tea Party Patriots ( a group I support) was arrest at a NYC airport for check-in is pistol at baggage.
NYC is violating citizens of other states their inalienable rights.
Random point of possible interest:
No permit other than NYS is accepted in NYS
NYS pistol permits are not accepted in NYC
NYC permits are good state wide, except you can’t get one unless a city resident or a person of import.
EG: the persons above take a hosing for just having while passing through and at least trying to be legal about it. Yet a celebrity has one illegally in the city w/o any NY permit at all, in a bar where it’s illegal to carry regardless of permit, touches it off via ND and gets a ‘sorry but we have to at least give you a small fine for it but no jail, and we’ll blow you too just make up for the hassle’.
After she was busted, police found a white substance in her purse. The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office is awaiting test results before considering charges.
Did this ever get updated?
Found this via Google…
Police who arrested Graves at the scene also allegedly found “two glassine envelopes of alleged cocaine,” according to her arrest report released by the mayor’s office. Sources said Graves told cops at the scene that the white powdery substance in her pocket was crushed aspirin she used to treat migraines.
The responsible thing would be to either not carry somewhere that her permit wasn’t recognized or STFU about it and carry on (no pun intended). CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED.
I agree. I myself have been carrying for numerous years. And I will admit to carrying in times that it might not have been the most legal, but I weighed the decisions (be legal but be dead, be illegal but live to fight the charge), but I would never attempt to carry in NYC or places like it such as MD. Those places are just absurd, if I can’t carry there, I won’t go there, unless I have 100% legitimate business there, otherwise, I’ll stick to self defense-friendlier places.
I’ve never understood the concept of not allowing citizens to legally go through the process to protect themselves… If someone asks for the right to defend themselves, how can you say no will not?
I thought when we were kids, we were supposed to tell the teacher when someone was bothering us, and therefore when you stomped his ass… the teacher already had a heads up it was coming.
By LEGALLY obtaining your permit, its simply telling the “principal” that you intend to stomp some ass if you are messed with…
and why did she tell the cop to begin with?.. when the teacher says for the person that just threw the paper ball to stand-up… you don’t stand-up… especially not if she didn’t even catch you…this is common sense shit we’ve all learned 20-30 years ago…
As much as I feel for this woman; and the fact that I know of a similar case in DC (CHP holder from N. VA drives into DC to visit relatives while carrying); it is up to the individual to ensure that they are only carrying in jurisdictions that they are allowed to.
Just like the DC I mentioned, had the not been doing something so stupid as to get pulled over and searched for, he would have been fine. This woman should have left her handgun in her hotel room (IE: in the safe or locked suitcase).
While I hope they dismiss the case, I cannot blame NYC for her prosecution because she did violate the law. We all should accept the fact that because we do not agree with a particular law that is in place it doesn’t mean you are above it if you are caught.
Don’t make excuses when you are pulled over for speeding especially when you did so with the full knowledge that you are traveling above the posted speed limit. JM2CW.
Ryan Jerome was enjoying his first trip to New York City on business when the former Marine Corps gunner walked up to a security officer at the Empire State Building and asked where he should check his gun.
That was when Jerome’s nightmare began. The security officer called police and Jerome spent the next two days in jail.
The 28-year-old with no criminal history now faces a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years in prison. If convicted, his sentence could be as high as fifteen years.
Jerome has a valid concealed carry permit in Indiana and visited New York believing that it was legal to bring his firearm. He was traveling with $15,000 worth of jewelry that he planned to sell.
The online gun-law information Jerome read was inaccurate, however, and his late September arrest initiated what may become a protracted criminal saga. He hasn’t yet been indicted by a grand jury, but there may be little legal wiggle-room if he is.
“If he does get indicted, and they want to give him something less, then the legal minimum would be two years,” noted Mark Bederow, Jerome’s attorney. “They couldn’t even offer less if they wanted to.”
I have to go every year whether I like it or not and I don’t. My wife is from Upstate NY and it’s beautiful in the summer time with rolling hills, green trees, nice people, beautiful lakes and sprawling dairy farms but I absolutely HATE being there due to being forced to be an unarmed victim.
My company is also based out of NY and I’m required to be there for meetings almost every year as well. Again, I hate going to NY but I have no way of avoiding it currently.
This has been occurring for a lot longer than these three instances. It is just that the media is paying attention to these cases and now reporting on them (your guess as to why)
This is not new, but these three, perhaps at the behest of someone are wanting to be test cases.
The only time I will have any sympathy at all for someone getting jammed up in NY is if they are passing through and in accordance with the law.
I can do an internet search and in .0015 seconds determine that NYS doesn’t honor anyone elses’ permit, just like California. If you are not smart enough to do some research then you must pay the piper like everyone else.
How many of these stories do we need before people get it? Everytime one of these situation occur, it actually hurts the national CCW debate because people will say; “Irresponsible gun owners not heeding and checking local laws”.
NY Firearms Law is bad law. Your right to protect yourself does not end because a few NY socialist lawmakers say it does. Bad Law should be ignored and the Lawman who inforce it are just as guilty as the lawmaker who passed it. I find it silly that we excuse American LEOs for enforcing bad law but condem other governments when their police enforce bad law.