I noticed in a photo that the Pmags have the following marked on them;
Restricted Law Enforcement and Government Use Only
And of course, our friends at Colt mark their rifles with something similiar.
So if us civilian peons are allowed to buy these products, what exactly is the point of such markings? I can just imagine some Barney Fife seeing those markings and making a big stink over it. Because of that, I am reluctant to buy any product so marked.
TIA for filling me in.
Maybe so they don’t have to change the markings if they get banned again?
LOL, I thought of that too - saving the cost of the tooling change for the next federal AWB!
But seriously, I want to know what the reasoning is behind this. Without any further education on this point, I view such markings as a potential liability for civilians.
Probably protects them from states that still have the ban.
Don’t know what state you’re in, but if it is non-commie, might suggest you whip over to the BATFE site. On the eve the Klintonista ban expired, they published a letter to all FFL’s and LE stating that the markings, and other aspects of the ban were null and void as the Federal law had sunset. It is still available over there for your soothing, viewing pleasure.
Since the AWB has long expired why continue with the markings? Sure, there are state and local laws still in effect, but what difference does that make?
Along with the potential run-in with Barney, those markings really irk me in another way - it’s like the manufacturer is cow-tailing to the gun prohibitionists at the expense of the 2A. Yes, maybe I’m making too much of it, but if they are not required by law to place those markings on the products and civilians can legally buy them, what’s the point? If it is required by law, why aren’t all magazines and AR receivers marked that way?
BTW, major kudos to Larue for the “Live Free or Die” marking - their products are at the top my list! Those who feel compelled to mark their products in a way that make them sound they’re not for intended for civilian use are at the bottom. While I’ll NEVER buy a Colt for that reason, I hope Magpul can explain the reasoning or drop the marking.
If you don’t stand stand by the Bill of Rights at all times and under all circumstances, be prepared to kiss it good-bye.
This is my thoughts.
[QUOTE=Canonshooter;86961]Since the AWB has long expired why continue with the markings? Sure, there are state and local laws still in effect, but what difference does that make?
/QUOTE]
All it takes is one crime to be committed with one of these mags for some anti-freedom AG to turn around and sue Magpul for not restricting sales of its product in their state. The markings at least give Magpul cover. Magpul can rightly say they market their product to Mil/LE in that state.
That doesn’t make any sense to me. A person from MA could drive to NH and legally buy the mag and then commit a crime. This is the fallacy of suing a manufacturer for the illegal use of its product to commit a crime - no marking will stop that.
Additionally, I sincerely doubt there’s any such marking on a TOW missle or M1 Abrams.
I just learned in another thread that the marking has been dropped from the current production of PMags. This is good news! FWIW, Glock dropped the marking from their hi-cap mags after the ban expired. I wonder if Colt is ever going to wake up and do the same - until that happens my AR $$ will go elsewhere.
Look at the lawsuits NYC filed against VA gun shops. It doesn’t have to make sense.
I could care less if the Pmags said “For Jack Ass Use Only” as long as they work.
If they said that I would buy at least 5 for no other reason. 
Fixed.
That’s your decision, just like it’s my decision to not use ANY product so marked. If new production PMags are indeed free of that rediculous statement, I’ll be on line with you to buy a bunch of them (the smoked versions are kick-ass, IMO).
I have zero hope for Colt, but luckily there are plenty of other “tier one” sources for the black rifle. Take a look at the left side of the Noveske home page - they will get my $$ long before Colt does (and I’ll have a better rifle to boot).
On a Colt it says ‘Restricted Military/ Government Law enforcement / Export Use Only’
To me that just means in cannot be exported to another country unless it is for official use. Not to be sold to civilians of another country.
Also it doesn’t say for military, law enforcement ‘officials’ only, just military, law enforcement use…who’s to say a civilian can’t use his weapon to uphold the law. ie… protecting himself, home, family, crime, just not to be used to comit a crime…
Here’s what is says;
Restricted Military Use Only
Restricted Government LE Use Only
Restricted Export Use Only
Since I am none of the above, according to the markings on the rifle I should not own one.
Maybe Colt just don’t have the balls to risk their government contracts and stick up for the constitutional rights of The People (“let’s sell out the Bill of Rights so we can make big $$ with the government”) .
Screw Colt.
Dude we get it - you hate COLT. No one is holding a gun to your head to buy from them.
NONE of my PMAG’s have LEO/MIL markings I went thru the 46 I have in Iraq.
Kevin, sorry if I’m upsetting the apple cart but I do not believe that this point can be made too strongly. I am very passionate about our 2A rights and I fear that if we do not do as my signature line states, we will loose that right within the next few generations. For me, it’s simply a matter of principle to not support any company that does not support my rights - regardless of how good their product is. I hope that those who read this thread will consider doing the same.
I am relieved to read that Magpul no longer places that marking on the PMags, and am hopeful the Masada will follow suit (it should really be “the peoples’ rifle”).
I am done - my sincere thanks for allowing me to express my POV.
I am glad that you are at least done here.
Unfortunately you dragged your big anti-Colt troll over to AKForums as well.
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No worries, I’m just not getting your angst.
Colt sells LE6920’s etc to the public - who cares how its marked? I dont see Colt saying or doing anything that leads me to beleive that dont want the public to have guns?
Yes they do some weird CYA stuff - but they still make a great product and allow you to buy them.
As far as Magpul goes - I have NO WORRIES whatsoever about Rich and Co.
The only PMags that EVER had those markings, were the original protoype mags. NONE of the production mags have had that on them (to my knowledge). You have obviously never held a PMag. This is how outright wrong info gets spread around the internet.