Why don't we see more KAC?

AR/M4 AR General Discussion
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I am an owner of 2 KACs, and have another on the way. So this is definitely not meant to be a stomp or troll thread.

I was having a conversation with a friend who is a member here. We were talking about what big name trainers, gamers, and .mil use in terms of rifles.

Why is it that no one uses an SR-15? Lots of members have them and run them, but no big names really promote them. I can’t think of any .mil (foreign included) that use them.

Is there a reason why? As for non-standard parts, HK is used by several different organizations.

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Proprietary and expensive. Same with the rarely seen HK rifles.

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I don’t own any of their rifles, but I have their RAS rail system and forward grips on an LMT Defender and on 2 Colt 6920 Law Enforcement Carbines. Good stuff.

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Most organizations don’t need to buy the very best like KAC (and don’t want to/can’t pay for the best) and can get along perfectly with a rifle that’s “good enough” but still excellent- like Colt.

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What makes KAC better than Colt?

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Perhaps “best” might not have been the best term to use as its totally up to opinion, but in my eyes KAC has some features that set it apart (slightly) like:

-completely ambi lower
-E3 bolt
-URX rail

Regardless of whether you like them, they are features not found on your standard Colt M4. Whether its worth the price is completely up to the buyer- at this point I do not believe it is.

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Its all about the $$$. But, even issued carbines straight from Crane come with KAC furniture.

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I think it’s a no brainier. $2500 for a Colt 6920 or $2000 for a KAC SR15 Mod 1. :wink:

But seriously. Not even the “cool” instructors use a KAC and they have some dough to set aside for a rifle if they wanted to.

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You have no idea how hard I tried to get a SR15 as soon as the madness started…Prices for the 6920s have jumped ridiculously

It used to be more like 6920-$1300 vs SR-15-$2000 at the LGS.

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Nice looking rifles- there comes a point when its no longer an AR I think the KAC is getting close.

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THE COST THE COST THE COST THE COST THE COST THE COST THE COST THE COST etc:agree:

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?

Remember the good ole days when you could go to a friendly G&R Tactical and get 6920s for $900?

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For all the user sets you’ve listed, cost dictates is. For most of the advantages the KAC system offers, you can still just burn right through the mil-spec expendable parts in their place (E3 bolt) and still be money ahead, especially considering the primary cost is ammunition anyway. The added features are great (I have two as well), but for most organizations that cost up front isn’t as attractive as most of the other options that do use standard parts all the way across the board, and KAC is still doing significant business anyway and don’t need to hemorrhage cash to promote civilian SR-15’s anywya.

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US Department of Defense is the main customer of KAC. The SR-25 is commonly used by special forces. They are expensive and made more for special operations, rather than a standard issue for every single grunt. In my opinion, the best two names in ‘combat’ firearms would be Knights Armament and Heckler & Koch. Not really even opinion; FACT

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FN?

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Got to be cost, take a BCM, DD or Colt add a couple pieces and a consumer has a great rifle. I would personally love to have a KAC rifle but the cost compared to other tier 1 rifles is high, plain and simple.

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I have an sr15 on order that I hope to run the piss out of this year.

In my opinion the price throws people off, understandable but honestly if you want play you to pay.

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You posted this same question on TOS. Is there a reason you are posting the same question everwhere?

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To get different opinions from a different group of people??? Good grief, now people have to choose what forum to post on or have to deal with being questioned?

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KAC holds contracts with quite a few government organizations, both here and abroad. Most customers of those types are not the kind that want or need to be publicized.