Who downloads their handgun mags when leaving the range?

This subject has been whipped pretty good regarding AR15 mags. Most of my shooting friends download their mags after a match. I leave whatever mags have rounds in them and dont want to double my work, being a lazy ass.

Years ago, someone suggested that springs get wore out from being used, full to empty full to empty…not from being loaded and left alone?

Is there a consensus on what is best or does it matter, I have to think I am wrong since everyone I see downloads their handgun mags?

What say you ???

PB

From a nine page discussion just last year.

As much of a concern as the springs is the magazine itself. With polymer magazines, when kept fully loaded they can begin to bow out at the sides permanently. Then they won’t properly eject and must be replaced. Obviously not an issue with metal mags.

Same as you PB; loaded, unused mags stay loaded after range time. I do not download pistol mags, they’re loaded to capacity, unlike AR mags.
This has been my practice for decades with no issues.
Springs and followers are replaced on “as needed” basis.

I have not experienced any problems but I actively use my mags by emptying and reloading. I guess I will continue my practice of leaving as is when the match is over.

Good feedback guys.

PB

Did not happen with first generation PMAGs I kept loaded from 2009 to 2020.

We talking pistol or rifle polymer mags? I believe we were talking about pistol mags?
HK polymer pistol mags are known to bow from storage when fully loaded. Glock pistol mags not so much because they have metal lining inside.

For me, with pistol polymer mags I view them as expendable and after about 5 years I make them range use mags and replace the duty ones with new ones.

Mag swell can be a thing, depends. Spring fatigue from loading and unloading isn’t. I don’t download a range mag for either consideration. I download if I need to give ammo back, won’t use that load again soon, or need to do something with the mags.

If I were a Marine or Infantry Soldier going on patrol, I would load the magazines to full capacity. Magazines I have on hand are loaded for a long period of time without use, so I view this issue with a different point of view.

I download 30 round magazines by two cartridges. At times, inserting a fully loaded 30 round magazine into an AR until the magazine catch engages can be difficult with a closed bolt. If I fumble around in dark and hit the bolt release on an empty weapon, I can be in a position in which I have to perform a closed bolt reload. I am not taking the time to lock the bolt open, then insert a fully loaded magazine in a high stress situation.

Over the past 45 years, I’ve heard arguments for carrying fully loaded magazines and for downloading magazines. Do whatever you are comfortable with doing.

I don’t download handgun magazines, but I don’t top them off either. If a magazine holds 15 rounds and 1 round gets stripped off when I make the handgun ready for use, I carry the sidearm with 14 rounds left in the magazine. I also unload, then reload the magazines once a month.

Some local LEO I know carried their Glock 22 magazines fully loaded and argued that the springs would never weaken. After about 6 years had passed, the same group of LEO asked if I wanted to get in on a group buy to purchase new Glock 22 magazines. The slides on their service pistols would not lock open after the last shot in the magazine was fired.

Loaded / HD / Duty magazines remain loaded throughout their life and are only unloaded by shooting when shot for practice (typically shoot the loaded pistol magazine or the reload, every 6-12 months; AR mags are left loaded and the only time a round is removed is after chambering / unchambering it - mags themselves stay loaded).

Training mags get loaded / shot / loaded as needed. I often load in advance of going to the range (several days / weeks) and if I magazine isn’t emptied, it’s rare that I would unload it - typically only if I wanted to consolidate mixed number of rounds from several magazines - but if I had issues with a particular round, I’ve unloaded those as well. But otherwise they are in the loaded training box for next time.

Good to know fellas I will stay my current path.

Someone said polymer HK Pistol mags. All my HK mags are metal for my P30’s, VP9’s and HK45. I have seen those translucent HK MAGS for some of their fancy HK’s, I think ?

I was referring to the rifle mags. My unstated point was that even as far back as 2008 there were polymer choices to avoid this, at least at room temperature. Shame on companies if this is still a problem in 2022.

yea that should not be a thing, agreed.

PB

This.

I have crap tons of replacement springs for every single firearm related thing I have that requires some sort of spring to function properly (including magazines).

I have a few of those HK translucent AR mags. They have stayed loaded for years. They still work fine too. Yea…never owned an HK pistol polymer mag either…all metal. I bought the HK 17 round conversion kits for my 15 round P30/VP9 mags. Have to put those through the ringer to make sure it’s all good.

I did the 20 round conversions and they worked great. I have an ass ton of 15’s, who makes the 17 conversion kits?

PB

I do not download mags on carry guns, only on some metal AR mags not on polymer AR mags used for HD/SD. All other of my “fun” guns (AKs, FALs etc) I kinda do when I remember to. Range toys that are collectable and or rare are in different category IMHO and anything one needs to do to preserve the longevity of rare mags to keep the gun running should be done. My uncle had a an original Dornhous(?) Bren 10 pistol that sat unused for the need of a working mag!! Regardless, all mags should be considered somewhat disposable. Everything has a service life. If a mag is diagnosed as to causing ANY type of functioning problems on CCW/HD/SD firearm it gets shitcanned and replaced ASAP.

HK does.The 15’s followers were way over built. The newer HK 17 capacity mags are the same body as the older 15’s, they just have smaller followers, different springs and baseplates. Primary Arms had a clearance on them about a month ago. They are probably great since they are HK stuff and lots of guys have tried them on the HK forum.

https://lockedloaded.com/product/vp9p30-mag-conversion-kit
or

https://dackoutdoors.com/product/hk-vp9p30-15rd-to-17rd-conv-kit

or at HK parts.net

https://hkparts.net/product/magazine-conversion-kit-hk-vp9-p30.htm/

I top off my and partially loaded mags so I’ve got less work to do next time. I leave unloaded mags unloaded unless I need them to be loaded for some reason.