I am looking to scope my LMT MWS and was looking g for opinions on glass. I am currently trying to decide between the Vortex Viper PST line. I want first focal plane, however I can’t decide between the 2.5-10 or the 4-16. What are your opinions as to which and why would u choose it?
Would ask what you consider your primary use for the rifle first.
If a battle rifle I would go with the 2.5-10.
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And conversely, If you will be hunting prairie dogs, targets, or coyotes at 300-600m then the 4-16. The Vortex PST line is a great value; I have the PST 2.5-10x44 as most of the shooting I do is less than 300m.
I have been reading that the 4-16 doesn’t have the clarity of other models in the pst line, mostly at the top end of the magnification. No first hand experience however so take it for what it’s worth.
I have a 4-16 PST and I halve not seen that issue yet. It is this years production. As I use it more I will find out.
Dan
I do not have that problem with my 4-16.
I have a 4-16 PST in ffp. The glass is amazing for the price. I’m not saying it’s as good as the high end, but you won’t have any trouble seeing what you’re shooting.
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I honestly would use this rifle out to about 800,yards if I had the chance. I have a short barrel and a 16 inch rifle for 300yards and in. This is going to be more of my precision gun. I dont know how much magnification I need for that range really. My bolt gun has a 6-24 and I haven’t ever felt a need to use anything over 12 power (yet). So would I be best with the 4-16 and a set of surefire offset irons?
I have the 4-16 Viper PST SFP and glass quality is good. I had read about the issue with the glass quality and it was only the SFP and that was the early version. Current production seems good to go.
10-4. Thanks for the clarification.
I just bought my PST 4-16 FFP. AWESOME for the price! I would go with the higher mag so it will help you see the mirage near your target better. Mirage is your friend 
For the type of shooting you’re talking, it seems as though the 4-16 FFP is most appropriate. Especially at 800 yards–tough to shoot at a target you can’t see.
I ended up with the 4-16 FFP and offset irons for backup. I think this scope compliments the gun very well. Thanks for the advice.
Why not the 6-24 PST FFP scope? More power and you can see better at long range. I use one on my bolt gun and will try it on my AR15. Right now I am using a Bushnell AR/223 in 4.5-18x40mm scope which I like very well on my M4.
I felt like the 6-24 was a bit much for this particular rifle. I had that scope on a Remington 700 that I traded for this LMT. I shot a long range class and found myself at 300-400 yards shooting on 6x. I just felt it to be a little overkill. If I ever have a GAP in 300 Win Mag then I may pick up another scope with similar settings.
Same experience with mine. A heck of a scope for the money.
I know this has already been decided but just for info:
I had a PST 6-24 SFP on my R700 and shot it out to around 600. Never really went above 16x. That scope has been sold and been replaced with a Nightforce NXS 3.5-15. That’s been taken out to around 850 and even then I usually stay at 12x.
My buddy just took his Mk12 out to 750 today using a PST 2.5-10 FFP and actually put up a sub moa group at that distance with a 10 scope.
With the 4-16 so far I have shot out to 300 yards and haven’t gone near the max magnification. With the FFP set up I feel I see more of the target keeping it on a lower setting. 300 yards I normally shoot at 10x.
Fact of the matter is that you can shoot tighter groups with more magnification at distance, all things being equal. Otherwise, F-Class shooters wouldn’t be asking Nightforce & March for more & more magnification. However, it’s more “fun” to me to shoot at a lower magnification. You have more FOV, more awareness of what’s downrange, less eye strain. Things seem more clear and less distorted at lower magnification. Eye relief is more forgiving. You can still ring gongs a long way out with 10x or 12x. A 24" gong at 600yds is about 4 MOA. An easy afternoon of ringing a gong like that is a lot of fun. Ringing it with a 56x scope straining for the proper eye relief and trying to focus through the glare of mirage would not be as fun, and would be overkill for a target that size. So most of us don’t do that.
I have experience with both and it depends onw hat you plan on shooting. I really really like the 2.5-10 FFP scope because of its light weight and compact size. I think it fits perfectly on a gun like yours or on compact bolt guns. The 4-16 is also a great scope but a bit bigger than what I prefer on a semi auto .308. But that is a preference thing.
I mounted this 2.5-10 on my friends rifle and liked it so much I bought one for myself.
I put it on this rifle for now. But I plan on moving it onto a .308 built I am just starting.
The longest range I have access to locally is 400 yards and I have no problems hitting MGM auto poppers at that range with this scope.