I have been looking at 2 triggers. The Timney 667s 3lb trigger and the Geissele SSA-E trigger a double stage trigger. The Timney looks great but needs anti walk pins to be reliable. I also heard it may not ignite military ammo due to lighter strikes. On the other hand the SSA & SSA-E are considered bomb proof. This is strictly a home defense rifle and survival rifle for anything that may happen. It would seem that the SSA-E is more reliable but I’m no expert on either trigger. Posting to see if anyone has any expierence with either trigger.
Given your intended usage I would not be putting a target trigger in that.
About the only thing I would consider would be one of the Geissle or ALG options, and one that does not require anti walk pins or similar at that.
Personally, I would not put anything lighter than four or four and a half pounds given your intended usage.
I would highly recommend the Geissele or maybe the ALG. It would all depend on what you are using the gun for. I have a strong preference for the Gisele SSA over the SSA-E for my needs.
I wouldn’t use a Timney trigger in anything. I was completely underwhelmed when I shot with one. The anemic hammer strikes are laughable. The Geissele triggers are good, but I have come to hate two stage triggers. Maybe in a dedicated precision rifle, but I much prefer well done single stage triggers. No stacking or initial take up. When I touch the trigger I want the gun to discharge, no stages. To that end, I’ve found happiness with the Wilson Combat TTU MIL trigger which breaks at an ultra crisp 5.5lb. I tried the basic TTU which breaks at a slightly lighter 4lbs, but I didn’t like the reset of it. The MIL felt much more positive. There is zero take up or creep. It uses a 1911 style half cock hammer to maintain drop safety.
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For home defense and a general use rifle I would look at the Geissele SSA, which is recommended for Law Enforcement, Home Defense, and Hunting use.
The SSA-E is a Target Shooting/Precision Shooting trigger and is lighter than I would want on an HD gun.
Also, if you’re going the Geissele route, wait until black Friday and look for a good deal on the Geissele website. I paid significantly less than MSRP buying last year.
As said above, I wouldn’t go lighter than a SSA for home defense/SHTF. 4.5# is plenty light for that. Look at the ALG ACT as well. About 5-6# and is $70. Same for the BCM PNT or the Sionics trigger.
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I’m quite fond of the Timney, but agree with pinzgauer that the 3 pound option is a poor choice. I went with the 4.5 pound option, and the hammer falls after 4.2-4.3 pounds. There’s a bit of noticeable creep when shooting for groups at the bench, but it’s not really noticeable in other conditions.
I’ve neither owned nor used a Geissele SSA, but it should be a good choice, and preferred over the SSA-E.
The ALG ACT is an exceptional value. Mine releases the hammer at 4.5 pounds with the purple spring, and it’s very smooth. The BCM PNT, also with purple spring, is indistinguishable (to me) from the ALG.
Just master what you have. Then if it holds you back and you’re shooting more precision oriented courses, consider a new trigger.
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For HD, I would pick an ALG ACT trigger. The match style triggers are too light for your intended use IMO.
Geissele SSA is the gold standard of triggers for a reason. I’ve become a huge fan of flat bowed triggers though so I prefer the SD-C.
For your stated uses - ALG ACT, BCM PNT, or the NP3 coated Sionics trigger.
I was wondering what the stock trigger pull weight on my Colt LE6920mps-b was? The reason I need a lighter trigger is because my right hand is weakened due to ulnar neuropathy. Is the Geissele SSA trigger much better than the stock Colt AR?? I want to upgrade with one trigger because I dont have money to keep swapping out different triggers and finding out what would be a vast improvement over the stock Colt AR trigger.
For bang for your buck id find a geissele g2s on sale somewhere, it feels identical to the geissele SSA. Thats assuming youd like a two stage trigger.
If you prefer a single stage I second whoever recommended the Wilson Combat TTU but they are not cheap.
I generally wouldn’t recommend one of the NP3 or PNT coated mil spec triggers, as they just aren’t enough of an upgrade to warrant the change from stock in my opinion.
Geissele SSA trigger, definitely not the SSA-E for anything but target shooting. I have one and it is super light. I wish that I had bought the SSA, I also have a Larue MBT2S in my BCM and it is a great trigger at a very reasonable price.
Probably the most noticeable difference you will ever be able to make to a gun, aside from upgrading to an optic from iron sights. You can never go wrong with an SSA, and one of our members just listed one for sale. The recommendation for the G2S is good as well, same trigger as the SSA but batch QA/QC’d instead of individually if I remember correctly.
Geiselle all day, every day. They are, 100%, THE trigger. I have many. The SSA, SSA-E, the SD-E. All are fantastic. If you have ever used a flat trigger, I highly recommend the SD line. They are my favorite. From a “general” upgrade standpoint, the SSA is fantastic.
Save yourself the headaches and PITA, hey the Geiselle and thank me later.
SSA. There is no other appropriate option.
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I’m a trigger snob. I feel it as as important as the optic. The SSA is considered bomb proof and the SSA-E may be too light when adrenaline is flowing. Still is a two stage trigger for home defense is fine for CQB?
Geissele or stay home. I have an SSA and an SSA-E. The “E” is pretty light. Get the SSA and never look back. They go on sale every major holiday. The difference between stock and an SSA is incomparable.