I just started using the Wilson Combat TTU. It has been flawless and has no hang up spots. Very smooth trigger.
I have the Wilson TTU two stage and love it. I don’t have anything to compare it to other than the standard trigger that came in my Stag LPK, but its a night and day difference. I am planning on getting another one for the build I am currently working on.
Ronin Coleman, of PACT, distributes the American Trigger Corp’s “gold trigger module”. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=27227/Product/AR_15_M16_AR_STYLE__308_GOLD_TRIGGER_MODULE
I haven’t messed with one, but Ronin knows guns and knows the difference between game guns and serious guns. So does Hershel Davis, who endorses the unit.
http://www.americantrigger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=53
Rosco
I also have the Wilson TTU and it is nothing short of incredible. Easy to install, breaks very consistently and has no take up or overtravel. I’ve put 5-600 rounds on it so far, no change what so ever!
With the lone exception on the Knights, every AR I own sports a Giesselle SSA or SSA-E. In the past I’ve used Timneys(good trigger), JP(great single stage adjustable), Jard, Springfield, RRA, stock, and my polished stock triggers. What many newcomers to the AR series don’t realize is that many of the stock AR triggers have a lot of take up/slack before breaking. In application it is not that different than a 2 stage anyway, just heavier and grittier.
I really enjoy using the Geissele SSA triggers. I have one in a rifle that has thousands of rounds through it without any issues. I also have a JP trigger in another rifle that has been flawless as well but I will be replacing that trigger with a Geissele SSA very soon.
I wouldn’t hesitate using the Geissele SSA in a duty/self defense type rifle.
Amen. I now advocate Geissele and Battle Comp for most “general purpose” carbine owners.
Most balk and want the things mentioned. I know; I used to be one. :sarcastic:
I like the look of the Mega Tactical Trigger but it is an adjustable trigger. Anyone using it, or can tell me about it?
That is good observation you made in terms of seeing some SSA’s(prob. seen KAC’s as well) currently on the EE’s for sale as of lately and Ive seen them as well.
The reason why this is, or at least in my specific case where recently I had listed a SSA and KAC triggers on EE’s is because after quite some time of Geissele Automatics only producing the SSA/SSF and DMR’s they recently have released a new lineup up of triggers and they are shaking out to be more innovative and performance enhancing units than the previous models.
I still kept one KAC and two SSA’s because they are my personal choices for a true SHTF gun…by extension the triggers I would trust my life with:)
I hold the same idea about triggers as iron sights. Learn and master irons well and it will make you a much better marksman in the end no matter what type of optic you chose. Same concept with triggers. I also feel that you would be much better served if you learn to shoot the stock trigger well. You will be that much better of a shooter if/when you go to an aftermarket set up. I will add that IMO, not all stock type single stage triggers are the same. I will also say that some minor trigger work on a stock trigger can also work wonders for smoothing it out. This is best left to someone qualified to do such work.
I have numerous triggers, a few mentioned in this thread. For myself, I get no advantage with my aftermarket triggers on a non-magnified carbine out to around 450yards that I can notice. I am not faster, nor am I more accurate. On a precision scoped weapon, accuracy with a good trigger is definitely noticeable.
yep… it wasn’t that long ago that the standard, educated response to a new shooter would have been “get a quality GI trigger. learn the basics.” and pretty much nothing else.
i understand these newfangled triggers are the greatest thing since sliced gold bullion (about the same price, at least), but they’re special purpose parts for special purpose rifles for special purpose purposes. this isn’t an expensive-shit competition, it’s marksmanship. you develop your ability in stages, or you won’t have any. by going straight to a gucci 1/2 pound trigger, you’re robbing yourself of the opportunity to learn marksmanship- of which, trigger control is paramount.
or just drop 500% more on a gucci trigger
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KEEP IT CIVIL… GOT IT
if my post is to be edited, i’d rather you just subtract, not add.
Coming from a guy who has 6x the amt. of posts I do:sarcastic:
You left off that I am a fanboy as well for KAC, Colt, Nightforce glass, ADM mounts, Magpul furniture, Hornady ammo, AAC muzzle devices…few more I am leaving out;)
Really?
I’ve got a Geissele Hi-Speed Match and I couldn’t ask for anything better.
everybody who’s posted in favor of gucci triggers has stated nothing other than their love for their trigger. let’s try posting why you “couldn’t ask for anything better.”
not a single person has even attempted to reason why a guyslee trigger would be a good option for the OP.
I have used GI “normal triggers” along with the Geissele SSA which I currently own. I prefer the SSA.
The GI triggers even from good manufactures seemed to be a little gritty in other words the pull back was not too smooth and a little unpredictable. The SSA has a very smooth and predictable pull in the first stage and a very clean break. Because of how smooth the take up is in the first stage, you know right when the hammer is about to be released in the second…
That’s great that you love your Timney’s, but they do not fit well with the role described by the OP, nor do most of the others recommended in this thread.
Stick with a standard GI trigger if reliability is your number one priority.
Just got back from Rainier Arms where they have demonstrator lowers you can try a couple of different triggers. I did not try the GI trigger while comparing the Geisseles.
The Geisselle SSA (sample of one) had a gritty 1st stage and the 2nd stage had noticeable and gritty creep. It had a definite amount of backlash as well. The pull weight felt about right for a good service rifle. Trigger was predictable and I felt this sample would be far less gritty if lubed and would smooth itself out with use.
The Geiselle Enhanced (I think it’s called the SS-E? Also a sample of one) had a smoother 1st stage though it still had a bit of a gritty feel to it. I could detect no creep in the second stage. It broke clean and crisp each time. Had about the same amount of backlash as the SSA. Again, the trigger was dry and with lube & use the grittiness should smooth out. One thing I noted about the E- if you simply stroked it through without taking up the slack of the 1st stage first, it felt much like a good, short stroke non-stacking double action trigger. (I did not test this with the SSA as by this point I decided I like the E trigger better. The SSA may exhibit the same.) The E trigger also had a lighter pull that I really liked.
They had a Geiselle adjustable installed in one of their rifles and I played with it as well. Again the trigger felt dry. The second stage broke light with noticeable creep and the usual backlash. It didn’t feel like the trigger was properly adjusted and cannot be fairly compared here.
What I did not like about any of the Geissele triggers I tried was the long reset. The trigger has to be let up completely through both stages before it resets. This makes for a safer and more rugged design, but I’ve been somewhat spoiled by triggers that resets just before the the beginning of the 2nd stage so I can simply begin my squeeze for the next shot.
The Geisseles also have quite a bit of backlash compared to bolt action triggers. Compared to other semi-auto triggers, where backlash seems to be a necessary evil, it doesn’t seem to be excessive.
Overall, I liked the Geisselle triggers. Between the E & the SSA, I’d say get the E because of it’s crisp let-off. Between the SSA and a good GI, for the money, I’d say stay with the good GI as long as it’s smooth and reliable.
If Geisselle made an Enhanced that had the reset like the trigger of my beloved Garand that didn’t double when being “milked”, there’s be no doubt in my mind what you’d find in my AR
which trigger set up do I need?
One that works when you want it to.
I’m not sure the difference between a two and single stage trigge
Single stage has ONE engagement surface. Two stage has two. Each engagement surface gives a different “feel” when you pull the trigger. A single stage will have one constant pull to it. Meaning you put pressure on the trigger, and it feels the same from start to finish. Two stage you have initital take up (take up = pulling the trigger back) for the first stage, and then the 2nd stage engages. On a good 2 stage you’ll have 1st stage take up, and then hit a “wall” in the take up. If you press anything past the “wall” then the trigger will engage, and the gun will go off.
Difference being in a single stage you keep pulling and pulling and pulling until the gun goes off. 2 stage you have intitial take up (1st stage trigger pull), hit the 2nd stage, and if you press any further the gun will go off.
Advantages of a 2 stage is you know when the gun will go off. with a single stage its one flat pull. With a stage you can go…ok the first stage got taken up (pulled), and then if I pull anymore the gun is going to go off. Its much better for accuracy than a single stage.
But words cant describe it good enough. Best to have both side by side, and someone who knows what they are talking about guiding you through it.
Inconsistent pull weight, rough machining means gritty feel.