Which should be the heavier amount: the amount you can Squat, or what you can deadlift?
I used to squat 740 in the box… my dead lift was nowhere close. 
Okay, another way of asking this would be: what are the current amounts you guys are Squatting, and Deadlifting?
Mid fours in the box… mid twos off the ground. Old back injuries.
If you are doing full Parallel squats (not box squats) and full deadlifts, my experience has been that you can usually deadlift quite a bit more than you can squat but my squat has always been weak in comparison to my clean and deadlifts.
At my strongest I could deadlift 440 and squat 275 ish, now a days I can probably squat clean…225-250 and deadlift 350 ish.
YMMV
GU
I would agree, if both are done CORRECT, you will dead lift probably 20-30% more weight then you can squat. There’s a huge difference between a correct squat and what you see most guys doing at the gym.
There’s no should on that one. Due to mechanics, etc, etc, differences between people, it goes either way for people.
exactly. i was NEVER able to dead lift anywhere near what i could squat. think about it… depending on how you break up your workout and which parts you focus on, it could vary a lot. i have a buddy who can bench as much as his squat and his dead lift is close. it really does depend on a) what willbrink said… mechanics, etc. and b) how you focus your workout.
I am 6’2" and honestly felt that deadlift was working against me. I could squat over 600lbs at my peak around 18yo. I could only deadlift ~405lbs.
Well I’m new at these, building the amounts I do slowly and I was sure I heard somewhere that Deadlift should be more, but for me after the latest weight I added, the deadlift was very hard but I feel like I’m nowhere near having difficulty with the same amount in a squat.
I was taught and only use the front squat, it seems easier on my back, but I see alot of guys using a back squat, which is the better technique?
Neither/both. Both are productive exercises that should be a staple of any lower body program, injuries, etc not withstanding.
Squats: 360
Deads: 325
Below parallel w/ knee wraps for squats. W/ wrist straps for deads.
May be I’m not pushing myself enough for deads, but since my back is involved I’m going to proceed carefully. My bitch hands/grip strength also limits my deadlifting. :mad:
I don’t know what that means 
I get that too with Bent Over Rows. Above 110 lbs. I can lift the iron, but my hands will not stay closed.
I started Squats and Deads just a few months ago and am increasing the weights incrementally. I’m at 220 now with both and the Deads are getting harder, but the Squats are not much of an effort yet, which is why I started this thread; somewhere I had heard Deads should be more and wondered if I was doing something wrong.
My squat was always WAYYY less than my deadlift. In fact, there was a long period of time where my bench was heaver than my squat. :eek:
At the height of my 5/3/1 training last year, my 5RM for deadlift was 285, and 5RM for squat was only 165.
The answer varies a lot from person to person. Also consider the fact that the VAST majority of people you see in a gym aren’t ‘squatting’, and are actually performing 1/2 or 1/4 squats. Because of this, peoples squat #s they tell you will almost always be greatly inflated. If it’s not below parallel, it’s not a squat.
You may already be doing this right so forgive me if I’m suggesting something you already know…
When deadlifting for max, turn the palms opposite each other – one palm pronated over the top and the other palm supinated underneath. Then “over-twist” your hands before gripping the bar. In other words, reach way around so that the bar rests inside the pads at the base of your fingers.
You should find that the opposing twists “lock” the bar into your grip. The hands are better able to hold since the twist from one works against the twist from the other.
Magnesium carbonate chalk is also a must-have to keep the bar from slipping. Baby powder on the shins and knees will help encourage a straight pull.
My max back squat is 405# but I got that three times after doing a squat workout so I think I could go higher.
My max deadlift is 415#, so they are close to the same with me. Dealifts (and squats for that matter) are all about form. You can have all the strength in the world but if you lose form your lifts will suffer (and so will your back).
As for grip… for anything over 300# on DLs I alternate my grip and it helps tremendously.
I do front squats also but cannot go near as heavy or do near as many of them because they kill my knees for some reason.
This thread just made me realize how much I really need to get back into the gym!
I have been using the alternating grip method and chalk. Will try the over-twist thing though.
Thanks for the tip!
Too true, I have had the urge to cling on the bar and pull them DOWN. 
Some also do this on the leg press…
When I started doing Crossfit a couple months ago I had to almost completely re-learn how to squat and since I had to get used to coming down waaaay farther than I was used to (from ~1/2 way down to below parallel), the amount of weight I could squat plummeted (~185-ish). Now that I’m building back up with good form, I’m able to squat around 225-ish on a good day but that modest amount of weight is moving over a MUCH longer path and that’s a good thing, IMO.
I don’t use wraps! I feel that my squat will always be stronger than my dead lift. I just got back in the gym 4 weeks ago after 1 1/2 years off.
Squat it right at 205 for 4 sets of 6-8 and Im adding weight every week
Deadlift is around the same 205 but I expect the squat to take off as I am adding weight at a much faster rate.
I’m 6’3" 205 and have lost 25 pounds in the last 2 years
JM2CENTS
Jon