i’ve been looking for a new handgun for cc and decide on the HK p2000sk.
the only thing is that i don’t know if i should get the v2 or the v3?
i am leaning towards the v2 but have never shot either one so could someone with knowledge of these two pistols please give me their opinion on which is the better gun
This is not an easy question and definitely not one that can be answered on an Internet forum. The two trigger setups are very different. The V3 is a traditional DA/SA and the V2 LEM is a very light double-action only trigger with a pretty short reset. The LEM operates like no other trigger mechanism and many love it and just as many hate it. Definitely try both before you buy. Just my .02.
What do you currently own? This will also assist in your decision making process.
currently i don’t own any handguns but the last one i had was a Star 45 PD…not the greatest gun but it served it’s purpose.
the last gun i shot was a taurus 24/7 and i hated the trigger
Good advice.
However, if you are starting fresh, then it is a toss-up in my opinion. You might consider trying to find some rental guns in the area and make your decision after you’ve tried them both out.
The advice given above is the best advice your going to get but consider this.
On the V2 (DA/SA) your going to have to get used to transitioning trigger pulls.
With the LEM one, you have to get used to a single trigger pull weight, and that’s it.
I’d get the V2, but it requires more training, and familiarity with the DA/SA system.
Shoot them both, and contemplate if you’re comfortable with learning the procedure for DA/SA.
Does the P2000 have an external safety?
P7-PSP…You wont ever regret getting that pistol.
Perfect for CC, slim, shoots completely flat, incredible safety system (people dont realize that benifits of that system)…
P7-PSP…you wont go back.
Velcro
Good choice, but the America version (M8) would be my choice as the best all around CC weapon. 
C4
because it is a weapon that take a good attitude to know the operation of this thing, probably my favorite feature for this pistol is the Euro mag release.
With the M8, its like anything else, you are going to launch your mags when they are empty. with the euro mag release it puts mag retention into the “palm of your hand” literally and forces you to learn good mag retention, and the PSP is even slimmer than the M8.
Velcro
With an emergency reload, the LAST thing I am worried about is retaining my mag. Getting the weapon reloaded and back into action IS the most important thing.
C4
“IF” you are in an engagement that you have to reload…IF EVER, the reality is to get that loaded mag in the gun, fine, but the theory of dump you mag and get rid of it, WILL NOT always be your best solution.
If you train that “retention” is an option and a important one, then when it comes time to have to, you will know it, A LOT better than realizing that “Oh sht, I don’t know where any of my mags are”.
In a perfect enviornment, on the range, or rec shooting, fine, but when you need that skill, in the middle of it, IT WONT BE THERE…
Right, better to have the skill and not need to use it than not have it at all. People, remember not to get to tunnel visioned on the things that just seem so simple…practice some form of retention when you train…its not a all the time thing, but its a basic fundamental and skill.
…I have been faster to get back into it with retention than someone else who may get that empty mag out of the way, but is so sparatic that they fumble…training a harder skill makes easier things…easier!
Velcro
This is only valid if I have loose ammo to put into my mags. I don’t know about you, but I don’t carry loose ammo on me.
If you train that “retention” is an option and a important one, then when it comes time to have to, you will know it, A LOT better than realizing that “Oh sht, I don’t know where any of my mags are”.
In a perfect enviornment, on the range, or rec shooting, fine, but when you need that skill, in the middle of it, IT WONT BE THERE…
Right, better to have the skill and not need to use it than not have it at all. People, remember not to get to tunnel visioned on the things that just seem so simple…practice some form of retention when you train…its not a all the time thing, but its a basic fundamental and skill.
…I have been faster to get back into it with retention than someone else who may get that empty mag out of the way, but is so sparatic that they fumble…training a harder skill makes easier things…easier!
Velcro
I practice both tactical reloads and retention reloads. Neither of them are as fast as an emergency reload. Getting bullets back in the gun is the only thing that matters in a bad situation.
C4
I carried a P7 for a year in the early '90s. And then gave it up.
I think the advice sometimes offered that if this is your carry weapon, you should forego all others is sound advice. It demands very unique handling habits and if you do not totally ingrain in them, this can be an extremely dangerous choice of carry pistol.
Once squeezed to the cocked position, that SA trigger pull is short, crisp and LIGHT. So don’t ever get so stressed out in a potenntially dangerous situation that you squeeze it too soon. And don’t have it squeezed to cocked and then, startle from movement in a doorway to your left and rapidly pivot towards the movement which startled you. From my experience drilling these things with a PSP, I decided that there are far too many outstanding pistol choices whose designs allow more room for error under stress.
you are the Instructor…we can go with what you say, and you are correct, but there is WAY MORE than that to it.
JHC, you are completely right, it does take a more mentally trained form of training, I will take that over just getting by type of training…because as one reaches a higher level, the are offered more options…I dont want any room for error in my pistol, period.
Velcro
Whose the instructor? Not me. I do train with the best minds in the game. They will all tell you the same thing. Getting ammo back into the gun trumps retaining an empty mag.
There is way more to what? Tactical reloads? No, not really. They are simple to do with a little practice.
C4
unfortunately no gun shop around here carry HK pistols so trying the different triggers is out of the question.
i think i’m going to go with the v2 LEM version since i didn’t like the way the sa/da trigger on the taurus felt having a long pull on the first shot and short on the remaining.
if i don’t like the v2 i can always sell it and get something different
the best mind’s in the game is completely left up to opinion…I can easily say the same thing. It would be interesting to compare notes…and I am sure that the people that you train with are happy that you are there to help them with the needs of equipment they may have.
if you get past the “see dick run” final answer about getting bullets back into the gun…there is no greater “final need” outcome, but that form of tunnel vision is fine for a range, you have to be at a mental level higher than changing a mag fast, or that is all you will ever do.
Velcro
I’ve got the P2000SK in LEM (V2). Also have an HK45C in LEM. Hands down the end all, be all trigger for a carry gun IMO. Without getting your hands on it it is tough to explain, but the closest comparison would be a Glock trigger where you have a light take up, a second stage with more weight before the break and a fairly quick reset. Now, before someone jumps on me, yes the two firing systems are totally different (hammer vs. striker fired), but in all actuality a stock 5.5lb Glock trigger is similar in characteristics of the pull compared to the LEM variants.
OP: Feel free to PM if you have any other questions.
V2=LEM
V3=DA/SA
I have been carrying my P2000SK LEM .40 for just under four years now. I absolutely love it. Get yourself some flat floorplates for your mags.
Excellent advice, glad you remembered.