I have started looking into the P30, and doing some price comparisons online, but I am getting a little confused. There is the P30, and the P30L…seems like it is not much difference in length really. But what is more confusing is all of the various trigger variations, and some of the dealers are not specific as to what is what. Any ideas on determining which variation to go for?
Thanks, DJ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P30
Variant Action Trigger pull Trigger travel Notes
V0 DA/CDA 51 N (11.5 lbf) (DA)20 N (4.5 lbf) (CDA) 14 mm (0.55 in) Features a cocking piece, spurred hammer and a decocking latch.
V1 CDA 20 N (4.5 lbf) 14 mm (0.55 in) Features a cocking piece.
V2 CDA 32.5 N (7.3 lbf) 14 mm (0.55 in) Features a cocking piece.
V3 DA/SA 51 N (11.5 lbf) (DA)20 N (4.5 lbf) (SA) 14 mm (0.55 in) (DA)7 mm (0.28 in) (SA) Features a spurred hammer and a decocking latch.
V4 CDA 27.5 N (6.2 lbf) 14 mm (0.55 in) Features a cocking piece.
V6 DAO 39 N (8.8 lbf) 14 mm (0.55 in) No manual safety option available.
S will denote safety, L will denote long.
Thanks, I read that on the HK site…was looking more for recommendations.
I think one of the best options for a carry gun is a standard v2 p30 LEM…buy the gun, 3 extra mags, 2 cases of ammo and some training classes and then be on your way…oh yea a holster too lol
A seven pound trigger is getting up there man.
The V1 and V4 seem to be more in line with what I want…sometime by the end of the year I’ll probably pick up a V4.
I doubt that it’ll do anything Glocks don’t already do for me…other than allow me to carry AIWB with a little more confidence/safety.
Ive been in love with the V3 P30 for a while now, but i am waiting for the P30S in 9mm to arrive. The P30S is a V3 with a thumb safety, that also has a decocker. I want this pistol, so i can carry cocked & locked, since i dont like the heavy DA 1st pull on the V3 P30. The P30S would be my recomendation, if you are good with the idea of a thumb safety.
Good to know. Ideally, I’d like to end up with HK P30L V1 - either by purchase of the V1 or by conversion of the V2. Do think there ever will be a P30L in V1, V2 or V4?
I’d rather not think in terms of converting V3 to V1.
I would personally go for one of the LEM variants. I have LEM triggers in my HK45C and P2000SK, wouldn’t trade them for the world.
FYI, The P30 is not easily converted to LEM post-production like USP’s and such, so if you want the LEM trigger I’d recommend buying one right off the bat.
Yeah I think eventually they’ll do that…I hate how firearms companies phase stuff like that in slowly though.
From what I’ve seen, it’s not terribly difficult, it’s just the parts aren’t cheap (>$100).
It’s not so much the parts, it’s that HK-USA does not support the conversion because the frames of the two variants are different. Converting a standard frame to LEM will leave a gap where the decocker originally was. Word has it warranties will be voided also.
Well, WHEN THEY DO, I will want one!
I recently got a P30 LEM in 40 S&W and it is an instant favorite. Everything said about the ergos is absolute truth. It shoots soft, handles really well and points like my finger.
I have the V2 LEM and converted to the V1. Everything Lucky Strike said is spot on. The Firing Pin Block spring is easy to change. The Trigger Return spring is a bitch (don’t ask how I did it; I finally just got mad and pushed it in somehow).
I have had a P2000 LEM v1 in 9MM for several years.
HK’s are the only pistol I have ever owned truly good-to-go out of the box. They are pricey, but by the time you customize, modify, and de-bug other brands you are not so different in dollars.
It is the one readily available these days - DA/SA w/decocker. If I HAD to go that way - I would . . . but I’d rather a LEM V1.
If you want a L and dont mind the ambi-saftey , then here is the only p30 v1 imported to date as a stock v1.
P30LS V1
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=176992007
That makes it a V3 then?
The P30 you want. 9MM or 40S&W? P30L 40S&W is due Mid August.
I have settled on 9mm. I currently carry a .40 (GLOCK 23), but I am considering caliber consolidation.
Thoughts on P30 vs P30L?
Also, like was said above, most of what I see for sale are the V3, but many suggest a LEM…worth say an extra $50 or more for a LEM over the V3?
Law of supply and demand. I’d spend the extra $50.