Northern Idaho like Coeur D’ Alene, Sandpoint, Bonners Ferry are all fantastic.
Most of western Montana is as well.
Yup, that was the general feeling when I was out there last spring. Surprisingly quick to get the stink eye when asking questions about “relocation”. While I don’t normally care, and folks should live where they want, it is a point that has to be considered in the long run, at least to my way of thinking. It’s easy to get scope locked on guns and politics thing, I know I’ve done/do it. That’s why I asked the question I did, but the reality is that we spend more time living in an area than shooting, so the minutia unfortunately becomes a factor.
Arches would have been bad ass back in the ol’ scouting days. Spent a couple of weeks rafting the Brazos in TX one summer. Good times for sure.
Topics like this are great for getting a better understanding of what life is outside of the immediate view. Hopefully turnburglar (as well as others, myself included) finds it helpful.
Idaho’s days may be numbered just like the other Cali-refuge states. You can knock the mormons in S. Idaho or the recluses in N. idaho, but both groups will stay red for some time. The incoming refugees will be the tipping point.
Every californian says they’re moving for “that small town feel” and thinks, “just one more won’t hurt” but they will never admit to being like the thousands who have come before and the thousands who will come after, as they ruin small towns. They all want to move in and close the door behind them, because they’re special.
Broad brush much. Not all Californians are hippy leftist fags. And yes, I’ll be going to Idaho…God willing.
I’d suggest a tax-free, Class III, state. TN, TX, or FL - in that order.
I’m in PA - a Class III state, but hardly tax ‘free’… :no:
NOT Washington–the cancer has already metastasized here, we’re basically Cocksuckifornia Norte thanks to all the Calif***holes who’ve already invaded and brough their dangerous, unwanted, un-American ideas with them.
Maybe you also have an indigenous commie problem, you couldn’t possibly have a home grown commie problem…right?
Here’s a piece of history for all you California haters. I’ve lived here all my life and watched over the decades MILLIONS of people emigrate to my state from where?? All the other states. That would include from states that complain about Ca commies. Those people came here for the weather, or jobs, or Yosemite, but they came and guess what, they weren’t all even close to being super duper conservatives all wanting to pack heat. So, many of the leftist that flourished here ultimately came from the states of Ca haters.
We do, but until the California Invasion started in the '90s we were mostly able to keep Seattle somewhat contained. Once they had an IV pump of growth-medium to metastasize with…
And then there’s the other problem: Seattle turns out en-masse and is 1/4 of the state. When only 40% return ballots and 60% of that 40% is the King County Democrat Machine, good luck beating 24% with 16% when the other 60% just wanna grow calluses on their asses and gripe, be Keyboard Kommandoes.
I’ve worked with several California transplants.
Can’t seem to get anywhere without rubbing shoulders with someone from California, here.
However, all those I know are from California have been glad to be gone from there, are quite conservative, and enjoy packing guns.
I’m not saying that they’re all like that. But those I’ve met have been.
I’m reminded of the polling in Texas showing that native Texans were more likely to vote for Beto (D) than transplants… with something like 44% of native Texans voting for Cruz (R) and 55% of transplants.
So while we like blaming the transplants… not everything that’s wrong with our states might be their faults.
I’m a CA refugee. Hate that place.
I’m glad Wisconsin is still a good kept secret, decently cheap, great people, good gun laws, winter keeps the many out.
I’m debating staying in WA currently, but obvious reasons make me second guess that. I’ll probably end up back in Wisconsin. The Mid-west is much more sane. Ignore Illinois.
Check out your prospective states’ income tax laws if you are retired (medically or 20+). Alabama has income tax, but not on retirement pay. Not all states have income tax, of course, and as far as I know, no states tax disability compensation.
Most states have some benefits for disabled vets, but the benefits vary greatly. You want to buy a home, and you can save a pretty penny if property tax is exempted.
Andy
Not all, but a majority bring the same problems and attitude that are destroying California with them. Broad brush they do diminish the rural character of my area. Doesn’t mean I will treat you poorly or judge you based on anything but your character. (Unless you can’t figure out a two lane highway has more than just a left lane…)
Yup, Still trying to figure out where to move to myself as I get older and winter sports get harder on the body…
Pretty broad stereotype, Been here 20 years came out on vacation and never left, been everything from a river rat, ski bum, restaurants employee, Now i’m self employed…
Funny thing about “Hollywood” None of the locals give a Sh’t, the only time celebrities get mobbed is by the out of state tourist types…, was next to Harrison Ford several time at the local pub hardly recognized him and didn’t care…
When people are placed in stereotype’s based on what they wear or drive, it drives divisions in communities, and in itself destroys the character of small towns…
The problem is Californians are destroying every where they immigrate to Ada county and Kootenai county are little California and the latest reelection has anti gun politicians being reelected.The Demos and RINOs.
They’re like the aliens in Independence Day… O.O
Hey Guys, OP Here,
This thread has been a blast to read. I had my surgery two weeks ago; and besides my surgeon, every single other aspect of d ealing with the VA has been nightmarish. I got pnuemonia cause the hospital was so dirty, and vommiting with pnuemonia right after having back surgery has probably been the worst expeeince of my life. I feel like surviving afghanistan was easy compared to the VA. I also got their decision about my claim and my current precentage is staying the same, so that means money is still gonna be tight.
Since I HAVE to leave So Cal, the obvious and easy option is for me and the wife to go back to Phoenix. I got into ASU anyways, so atleast I can use my GI bill. Until the semstser starts in the fall though I really have nothing to do, so we planned a trip to Bali, indonesia for a month with the intentions of scouting to see about staying and living out there while I do physical therapy for a few months. We already looked and for $500 a month you can rent a really awesome 2 bedroom with a private pool, and the dollar goes insanley far out there. Besides Bali, I am sure there are other places in southeast asia that the dollar goes far. The Phillipines comes to mind. Does anyone have experience thouhg in that part of the world?? Im not trying to buy property, or denounce my citizenship or anything crazy like that. Just spend a few months to physical therapy in a serene place that I can afford.
one of my buddies has a wife from Philippines he is down there for 6 months with her and her family now he is loving it so far and having a great time
like anywhere bad parts are easy to find out and stay out of
I had lots of friends with family from there and extended family there when I lived in Hawaii great people so over almost 40 years of knowing lots of folks from there and still there it sounds about the same so quite stable in that sense (again from what and who I know)
my experience with folks in Indonesia and Bali is to old these days ? from my time I spent time in Micronesia and had friends that worked in those places so would be no help 
bummer to hear about the hospital !
I know was just chatting with my friends about Portugal and the coastal areas that are really nice and quite reasonable just outside as in 30 minutes or so to avoid the higher prices of the main tourist areas and hearing good things about it ? totally dif experience I reckon then the others but who knows might be worth checking out to
year around great sun shine etc. and they said was quite reasonable
Kootenai County is changing like crazy, and is growing at an insane rate as well. I always joke with new customers from California that it’s fine they move here, just don’t vote! The only real positive is they are bringing tons of jobs into the region right now, and the area is booming with new construction and a swelling job pool.