What's the latest and greatest 1.x-Y variable optic?

Tactical Gear Optics & Mounts
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Is the Leupold MK8 still the most anticipated and latest and greatest? If so what’s choice #2? If not, what’s the real choice #1?

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Isn’t the SWFA Super Sniper 1-4 still the greatest of the latest?

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I was thinking maybe this one? But it’s been out over a year…

http://www.swarovskioptik.us/en_us/products/57

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I’d assume the S&B 1-8x short dot would be right up there. Not really sure it’s widely available yet, but it’s not really an issue for me, not in the budget for now.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=72356

http://swfa.com/Schmidt-Bender-1-8x24-Short-Dot-PM-II-30mm-Riflescope-P47551.aspx

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:rolleyes:

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I really like the Swarovski Z6i BRT 1-6x scope and its one of the most popular high end scopes in three gun right now with a lot of top shooters like Daniel Horner using it.
Pat


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For a 5.56 RECCE running a single optic, the Z6i has my vote. I rarely find the need for 8X on a 5.56 rifle.

For a 7.62 support rifle, I’d go with the Horus version of the MK8 for now (it is the only version with daylight visible red dot). Otherwise, wait for the S&B 1-8x which should be out in a couple of months. I got to play with both at Ft. Benning a few days ago. I plan to drop coin on the S&B as soon as it’s available.

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What does that mean?

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Leupold® Mark 8 CQBSS Riflescope: Cabela’s indicates that they have a “limited stock” of these scopes.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Leupold174-Mark-8-CQBSS-Riflescope/1249647.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D%26Ns%3DMAX_SALE_PRICE%257C1%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dleupold%26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchallpartial%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26WTz_stype%3DSN%26form_state%3DsearchForm%26search%3Dleupold%26searchTypeByFilter%3DAllProducts&Ntt=leupold&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

I note from the product description that the product is “imported.”

I called Leupold and asked them to identify the country where the scope was produced. They said that they refuse to identify their “suppliers.” I responded that I did not want to know the identity of their supplier, just the country. They again refused.

For $4k, Leupold cannot make the product in the USA?

Does anyone know the country from which this scope is imported?

And more worrisome, does Leupold even have the technical capacity to make a complete scope these days or has all that capacity been shipped overseas?

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Right now for whats available it’s got to be the Swaro Z6i. I recently got one for use on my EMC and it’s been great from up close carbine matches out to 600 yards.

ETA: If you are going to be at CFDCC this weekend, you can check mine out.

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The SWFA is hardly the “latest and greatest”.

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These are all valid points. I must state that the viable alternatives are both made overseas and owned by foreign interests.

Swarovski or Schmidt & Bender.

I suppose the Premier Reticles and US Optics could be considered competitors or alternatives, but are they completely sourced, fabricated and assembled here? I am unsure, so will refrain from guessing.

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I will be there. Thanks for the offer.

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Since you had to post the exact same thing in two different threads, I just wanted to make sure in case you missed this response in the other one:

KevinB says:

"Made in the USA. The Government has inspectors at the factory. "

That settles that.

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I think that public demand would indicate that the S&B 1-8 is the most eagerly anticipated, but I am not convinced that it is the most caipable. Then again, it depends a lot on application, and I think that a lot of people will quickly realize that the expense and weight is overkill for most people’s realisitc use and skill level.

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weight and cost are both exactly where my reservation lies with the 1-8 choices.

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I think that public demand would indicate that the S&B 1-8 is the most eagerly anticipated, but I am not convinced that it is the most caipable. Then again, it depends a lot on application, and I think that a lot of people will quickly realize that the expense and weight is overkill for most people’s realisitc use and skill level.

I couldn’t agree more.

I think a lot of people get stuck on having more magnification will make they an expoentially better shooter.

I was attracted to the S&B 1-8 for the features other than magnification. I ended up ordering a 1-4x LE, as I grew concerned about the limited exit pupil and delays in getting it to market. I don’t really want to beta test a $2500+ scope that I have to pay for out of my own pocket.

Now, I know S&B won’t realease it until its perfect, but even the 1-4x Short Dot went through revisions.

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I always refer folks your way when I receive questions about 1-4x types, you really seem to understand the capabilities and best uses for these types of optics.

Personally I will wait to see what NF has to offer in the future, if I get frisky, I’m swinging for the fences with March’s offering.

http://marchscopes.com.au/tactical-1-10-x-24-scope.html

These 1-8x types are VERY UNFORGIVING, they will require a very steep learning curve and many people will indeed find that they ultimately are not worth the hassle due to again the very unforgiving nature of them especially at max power.

If I were buying one of these for a light precision type rifle, I would get the leupy which has some really nice features for those applications in which precision will be sought like the turrets and horus reticle.

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I wonder how this would compare to the vortex pst
Its shorter lighter and cheaper :smiley:

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The VXR Patrol is the one that comes with externally adjusted turrets…

http://swfa.com/Leupold-125-4x20-VX-R-Patrol-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P49444.aspx