Incidentally, one of the top shooters in our club shoots a Glock 19 and runs an AR with, last time I checked, a Trijicon Reflex sight. He’s a private security guy and he is a VERY good shooter. He games it for IDPA, but he knows what he’s doing.
I would say that makes a good argument for what one “needs”.
I have “a family of shooters.” I have sisters, brothers-in-law, sons, nephews, partners, friends and a wife who all know how to shoot. If something happens, my place is where everybody meets up. Because my place is the fall back place, I keep a variety of different firearms available and a number of rounds too. In other words, I have “categories” of firearms.
I have four .22 caliber rifles, for example, 2 that are semi-automatic fire and 2 that are bolt-actioned with scopes. One of the semi-autos is a Ruger 10-22 for which I have a number of magazines. This rifle would be to lay down supressive fire like a mini-machinegun would do. The other is a very accurate tube-fed semi-auto which would support/augment the Ruger. The two bolt-action rifles would be used like sniper rifles with their scopes and extremely accurate fire. All four of these rifles could also be used for training purposes or even “trade goods” if needed.
My three .223 AR-15 rifles would be used by experienced shooters who have military/law enforcement experiences behind them. One is set up with a scope and the other two are M-4 type carbines.
Four shotguns would be used to deliver massive firepower for close range “social encounters” that needed it.
Big bore pistols for experienced shooters and medium bore for some shooters and small bore for training/trade goods.
Several other things that I have included or will include in my main equipment list is knives, machetes, hatchets, hammers and sharpening stones.
I really do NOT expect to ever need any of this stuff. I have, however, just finished reading a news article where people in New Orleans have started arming themsleves just in case there is another major hurricane like Katrina in their area. Both FEMA and the Red Cross stress that we should “plan ahead” in case of a major storm or disaster so I guess that a decent amount of food, water, guns, ammo and prescription meds is what I’m aiming for. Having been in combat with the paratroopers of the 173D Airborne Brigade in Viet Nam for over a year, living rough is something that does NOT scare me. I may not like it but I know that I can get the job done for me and my family members.
Duty Pistols:
HK USP .45 with LEM, Mepro Nightsigts and HK UTL MkII for both Patrol and SWAT
Off-Duty Pistol:
HK USPc .45 with LEM
Not carrying a gun:
S&W 442 .38
Patrol Rifle:
Bushmaster 16" AR with carryhandle mounted 1.5X Compact ACOG and light, BFG single point
SWAT Rifle:
Colt 6721 with Eotech, light and BFG single point
Personal Rifle:
Frankengun with Oly Arms lower, LMT upper, Aimpoint ML3 in LT mount, LT 7.0 with TD vertical grip, Pentagonlights light, Vltor A1 length clubfoot, BFG single point
HD Shotgun:
Benelli M1S90 with two point and sidesaddle
Long Range Love:
GA Precision .308 built on Rem 700 with McMillan A5 in three color desert, Leupold Vari-xIII in 3.5x10x40 M3, Mike Miller slip cuff, Harris bipod
Everything’s pretty simple. They are all just tools and get pretty scarfed up as I use them. I try to keep the systems the same so I don’t have to switch between control types, etc. in stressful situations.
How do you like your USP .45 with LEM trigger?
Specifically work related:
MK18 w/ Knights suppressor and MK262 is my primary
M4 secondary/primary
Sig 226 9mm
MK 12
MK 11
MK 13 300 win mag, may surpass the MK11 in some cases, especially now I have one with a suppressor.
MK 15 … Fun to shoot, limited match grade ammo
16" Noveske Recce Style rifle
HK USP (Tactical, Compact - 45/40)
Ideally I would like a suppressed 12.5" Noveske Crusader in 6.8 x 43mm. I would stick with my USP pistols because I’m familiar with them although Glocks and Sigs are both of quality as well. I would also recommend a large breed trained dog with a protective demeanor.
Now that’s a tool I’d like to see in my toolbox. Worth it’s weight in gold.
When I first read that I though “CIWS” – while fun to shoot, match ammo is certainly limited.
Oh well, if you said 88 the tread heads would have all thought recovery vehicle.
My go-to guns:
Rifle: Colt 6920, LaRue 7.0, Aimpoint ML2/LaRue M68 mount, Troy buis, Tangodown foregrip and pistol grip, Surefire E2D in VLTOR scout mount, Knights QD sling mounts with Wilderness Giles sling.
Pistol: Sig 228 and Glock 17
All the others are just for fun.
CCW Glock 23(wilderness safe packer). Also a Serpa thigh rig for Glock
POF 16" 415 5.56 cabine (on order) with an Acog 4X and Surefire light and a SRT can(on order).
Rem 870 with a Ziess red dot sight and a knox stock. And a 56 round bandoleer.
Anschutz 141m 22mag with a Kales scope. Sweet nutria hunting rig:D
My competition guns are my “break the glass” guns too. Living in the GWN one has to hide in plain sight with regards to martial training and firearms.
The Service Rifle:
Colt Target Sporter with C79 Elcan, this doubles as the DMR rifle.
The SHTF Carbine:
Colt 6920 with 921 upper, KAC RIS, ACOG NSN model, KAC 300m BUIS.
The Form 6 Carbine : Bone stock 6920, this one travels well south of the border.
Wife’s Carbine:
Colt SP2 Carbine with Colt 4X scope, otherwise bone stock. This one may end up being a safe queen when the 6520 shows up.
Pistols:
2 x Sig P226, one set up for CCW type carry with Bade-Tech Kydex and the other with a Surefire Nitrolon and 6004.
Shotgun:
K.I.S.S. Rem 870 Wingmaster with rifle sights.
My Weapons:
2&3. 2 ASA 16" AR-15 Carbines (one of them is for sale)
Robinson Arms M96 Recon Carbine (Accurate as Hell)
Kimber 1911 custom 45 ACP.
Walther P99 40 S&W
Dan Wesson Arms 357 Magnum Revolver
Mossberg 590 Shotgun
Smith & Wesson 25.06 Hunting Rifle.
My next purchase will be a Springfield SOCOM 16.
Large Handgun: Kimber Pro Combat Series I 45 ACP -Carry/IDPA
Medium Handgun: Yost Browning Hi Power Practical .40 S&W - Carry/IDPA Glock 23 - Carry/IDPA
Small Handgun: Colt Mustang II -Carry
Carbine: RRA Entry Tactical, Eotech 512, Vltor stock, RRA Dominator sight, SureFire Rail M73, KAC rail covers, SureFire G-2 light, VT sling.
Carbine 2: I am still building but I have a SBR Grenadier Precision lower, Vltor stock, Surefire Rail. I want to add a BCM 11.5 upper or LMT 10.5 upper and Eotech 512 in the future.
FB Rifle:1944 Remington 1903A3:D
Three complete rifles. Overkill, probably not. You have a rifle that you are completely familiar with, complete set of spares available, and if need be an ability to “loan” to a friend. Light armor as in Hummer up armored and at best through the radiator. LOL Anything bigger than that, brings more firepower onboard with it. If that’s the case then I’m out of there at a flat out run.
So now you are talking about taking out an up-armored hummer? I don’t like the sounds of that.
Are you talking .458 through an AR platform?
I still don’t understand why you’d need to loan out replica’s of your AR with the same $1100 suppressors TWICE. Most friends can utilize a $300 AK well enough.
While I don’t have 3, I do have two of each AR style; two 16" and two 11.5". The “B” version of each is iron sights and very KISS. This way I have backups for myself for matches and training and “loaners” if the situation ever warranted it. All without owning any AKS.
No terrorist here. Here’s a scenerio that could/has take(n) place. Hurricane. I live in an area that does get a major storm that will disrupt society. We do have a gang problem in this town despite what the PD want’s us to believe. I could see a situation where neighbors come together and have to defend their properties. A .458 through the radiator and into the engine block of a vehicle will wreck the motor and possible keep it from breaching a barricade.
Are you talking .458 through an AR platform?
Yes
I still don’t understand why you’d need to loan out replica’s of your AR with the same $1100 suppressors TWICE. Most friends can utilize a $300 AK well enough.
I like my friends. If it never comes to the above, fine by me. But if it does, I want as many folks on my side, alive and fighting as possible. Also, if it comes to it $1100 won’t mean much at that point in time. If I had a AK then I have to have mags, ammo (unless you have a .223 AK), spares, etc that are unique to that platform, and not compatible with the AR.
My neighbor’s backhoe could be pretty handy for a lot of “emergency” situations. The bulldozer too.
I’ve tried to fill out my collection in a way that allows me to have a tool that will fill most forseeable situations. 20", 2 16", one 11.5" and a 14.5(soon, just need an upper) AR’s in the safe. 12 guage, Rem 700, AK, 10/22, a couple Glocks 19/17, a 1911, and so on.
The 11.5" BCM is the castle defense tool and is kept ready to go to work. My G19 is on my person at all times unless I am wearing my G17. The 1911 is a range gun. I love to shoot it, but it doesn’t give me the warm fuzzy feeling my Glocks do.
When a situation arises, I feel like I will have the right tool to deal with it. Therefore, I don’t worry much, and I enjoy training. Ultimately mindset trumps all of this stuff. You can’t quantify, or put a price on the value of proper mindset. My little pea brain is the tool that gets the most attention.
“Stay alert! Stay alive!”
This is not ALL my toys, just the ones I consider ‘core’, if you will.
Small CCW: S&W Airlite Ti .357
Regular CCW: Kimber Warrior, Springfield LW 5", or Glock 19
Carbine: Colt with LMT 10.5" upper
Remington 700 20" with Gemtech suppressor
Ruger 77/22 with AWC suppressor
I can do just about everything I need to do with these.
“vehicle” is much different than “HMMV” and I read “Humvee” the first time and not just generic “vehicle.”
I have read about .458 socoms through ARs being fun to do and fun to suppress. Never thought they were anything near a .50 cal BMG round or anything like a rifle round- just a large pistol caliber that behaved as such.
Correct me if I am wrong but a .308 through a radiator will cause the coolant to leak out just as fast.