What was impossible to get during the last panic?

.22LR was so hard to find that it’s still hard to find.

I just want to know where he is getting good quality 5.56 for 300 delivered. I can’t even find it at that price.

Ammo, lowers, uppers, mags, and most of all, BCGs. Personally, if I were stocking solely for resale it would be mags or complete NIB 6920s and that’s it. Everything else I would just buy enough of for me. Decent .223 is easy to find for about $320 delivered. I don’t know anything cheaper than that, especially not 5.56.

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Where are these <$9 mags mentioned in post 1? Are we talking about cheaply made ones, or the real deal?

Pmags, but now the market is flooded.

Colt 6920s will dry up in 2016 but that market is pretty saturated so it’s hard to predict how high prices will climb.

Best bet is Bulgarian SLR AK rifles. Not as many of them out there, high quality and demand will be stupid during the next panic.

Ammo would be a good bet, but prices and availability won’t ever come down to pre 2008 prices so markup potential isn’t as strong, especially when you factor in shipping costs based upon weight. But definitely square away your own stash first opportunity.

If that is the case then I would put back a few complete Bushmaster M4-A2 Patrolman’s, this was the rifle allegedly used by Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook. I saw them fly off the wall at $3K during the panic and were priced higher than 6920s lol, their giving them away now for $699 at most reputable retailers. Also wouldn’t hurt to put back some of the S&W M&P 15 Sports, they are going for $599 currently. Both of those and Ruger’s AR-556 could easily be flipped for $2K-$3K during a panic. If it were me I’d scour the internet for the best deals on Colt LE6920-OEM1s and 2s.

To add to my OP (#3 on page two) LPKs were out of stock for a long time. You might have found an overpriced DPMS kit but DDs, G&Rs, etc. were sold out for at least a year. As was Arsenal AK spring kits.

But for pure profit; complete rifles, stripped lowers, mags, and parts (BCG & LPKs). Surplus mags have never really come back to the volume that they were prior to two Obama scares. I never though I’d see the day when you couldn’t find surplus G3 and AK mags. Even now it is getting harder to find new “surplus” G3 mags. Last time I found a source I bought all I could for under $5 still in the German wrapper.

Don’t know who or what they were referencing but D&H (formerly LaBelle) who make mags for BCM and DSG IIRC all going for $8-$9. I bought a ten pack recently for $6 a mag.

Scroll down the page and page two, many options in stock from $8-$11 a pop.
https://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?startrow=1&dir=625|1056|1058

Check multiple websites often and sign up for retailers emails, I’ve routinely squirreled away PMAG 10 packs for under $9 a mag when on sale.

I don’t know, AKs really didn’t seem to jump too much during the last one.

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After Sandy Hook I was watching ALL AK rifles, from $500 pieces of crap to SLG legion rifles sell for $3k all day long. I was kicking myself to letting a bunch go during the Great Obama Gun Sale for only $1800 each.

There will always be new people to guns and people who were not interested till it is talked about on the news.

Everyone that understands is gearing up for this to happen and talking about it. Who knows what it will be like? I’d be a little surprised if prices jump as high since there will be so many people ready to flood the market but I could be wrong.

Just be prepared. With prices as low as they are right now buy complete rifles, mags, and ammo. Throw all that under your bed and wait.

DSG was selling 10 packs of pmags for like $79.

If a Democrat gets elected we will definitely be looking at another panic, and short supply or no supply of everything mentioned in this thread. I am going to gradually buy some more ammo, and maybe another rifle, and some parts over the next year.

I had a few lowers and picked up one extra the day after SH. Lower parts kits were super hard to find around me. My buddy ended up paying $125 for a CMMG lpk to build out his first rifle. I would think for a high return on investment and will not take up a ton of room would be cases of mags, lpks, and BCGs. Premium stuff will draw a better price but the people who will pay insane prices won’t care what it is as long as its new in packaging.

Aim surplus a few months ago. $289 with $14 shipping. $303 Probably still have the invoice on their site. I should caveat that this was Wolf Gold. It works for me.

Thanks for the info about the mags. I think those make the most sense as far as mark up and availability and ease of storage.

Good info about the rifles but I’d rather not get into that game. I know if I buy a rifle at $699 for personal use now and sell it for $3k later that is perfectly legal. But I won’t even test the ATF in that regard.

I think Mags are where I’m going to squirrel things away. That seems to be a constant, and it makes sense. BCGs and LPKs won’t ever really be “banned” just the supply dries up for a while. The risk is a lot higher than 30rd mags. Of course there is the issue of an outright “turn em in” ban or one that doesn’t allow you to sell but that seems less than likely.

While I expect there to be a panic of some sort IF they get back into the whitehouse. It may be worth noting the biggest panic was after SH that was really more of a snowball coming off of the election panic and the scream for gun control and then, at least from what I saw, some people jacking up prices and then every going to ****ing hell. While I had seen a run on some stuff prior to prices getting jacked up, it really wasn’t until Jan where I was at when things got stupid. And then it was all down hill for the next 10 months before anything started coming back and production catching up, and Pmags went from like $12, up to $40, and by that Thanksgiving I was buy 10 packs for like $80.

At anyrate, if you are wanting to stock up on pmags for the next panic sale, grab some colored ones. The FDE and OD ones commanded a bit of a premium over black during the last one.

So you’re up near Cabelas, huh? I’m in Chester County. I may get a few more mags for my rifles, and handguns, but I have a good amount. I am thinking about another AR in some flavor, and maybe a lower, some BCG’s, and ammo. I am concerned leading up to the election, if it looks like a Dem is going to win then the panic may start. Couple that with another Sandy Hook, or even a false flag op that looks like a SH, then we are in trouble. I used to think this was tinfoil hat stuff, but not any more.

Nothing drives shortage and panic like talk of shortage and panic. Don’t have your head in a sand, but the pre-crisis hand-wringing many are prone to isn’t the answer either.

Anything that is semi-automatic and fed via a detachable box magazine, or any major component part thereof, is a safe bet. And ammo for same.

At this point I think the market is pretty saturated with rifles and lowers. I don’t have resale plans or anything like that, I simply bought a ton of magazines and ammo to hedge my bets. Enough to last me, my kids and their kids for a long, long time. Also, don’t forget about those high capacity pistol magazines. Glock magazine prices were crazier than pmags. Same with Ruger bx25’s.

Bans suck. But a little perspective. During the ban I had an STG 58, a Glock 17, a few shotguns, and an N frame and thought I had an arsenal.

If you didn’t go to work October 04, you were behind the curve.
While the panic was stupid (I still have a wrapped Pmag marked 80 dollars I got for 20 just for giggles), it was short lived relatively speaking. Lots of remorse selling a few months later.

A Federal Ban is unlikely, we’ve BTDT and it didn’t work out for the Liberals. I do, however, see further Balkanization of gun states which is working out better for the Libs.

If you live in a Confederate state, it just ain’t gonna happen. Nobody here wants to give up guns. Purplish states like VA …eh…I honestly believe having ties to VA that it will be the next one to ‘fall’.

Be it reintroduced trafficking laws, mag limits, etc. Following the Maryland model. Take away just enough without pushing it. The big money in that state might keep an LL Bean shotgun and a six gun but the crime rate in their neighborhoods is so low and they are so ‘civilized’.

Eventually the lines will stabilize and so on, but if Obama couldn’t do it…I don’t see Hillary and her drama doing it.

That said, GI AR mags, Glock mags, and 308 mags. I actually still use my old LE marked Glock mags and old 20 round AR mags for recreational shooting. If I go to a class, I pop out the lancers for ammo accountability.

Of course, if I were squared away I would’ve been learned how to reload and stockpiled that stuff.

They might go for green tip again and screw with parts kits but…call me a dreamer but I don’t see another BS Federal Ban.

Pistol mags!

G17 mags were going for $50-60 all day last rush- and of course the 30-rounders were around $100-something a pop.
M&P mags, around the same, but actually harder to find.
How do I know this? Well, I had literally JUST bought a G17 and of course had zero mags when the panic hit. Luckily there were some nice fellows on the EE here that had some to sell at somewhat more reasonable prices than the retailers… good times… :rolleyes:

Also, I would have killed (figuratively, duh) for a case of .308 Pmags. I can’t remember the exact number but they were going for ungodly amounts of money on gunbroker.

If I had had 2 cheap rifles- say a couple basic PSA builds, 4 cases of ammo, 20 of each G17, G19, and 9MM 30-round mags, 50 5.56 Pmags and 50 .308 Pmags I
would have had enough to buy a car with money left over…
Unfortunately, I can’t do major pre-panic “F*** the morons, let’s make some monayyyy” shopping as I have a hard enough time getting myself squared away.
What a crock.
If I could predict a ban attempt in the next say, four to six months I would be sorely tempted to max out a credit card…
Wait, what am I saying- of course there will be an attempt in the next four to six just because I can’t do anything about it! Typical. :jester: