BY: Washington Free Beacon Staff
August 2, 2013 6:43 pm
Executive Director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns Mark Glaze gave some ambiguous and potentially dangerous self defense advice Friday on “Hardball.”
Glaze, speaking in opposition to “Stand Your Ground” laws, said in a circumstance where someone “comes at you” with an axe handle one should attempt to either “talk,” “fight with your fists,” “run away,” or “deescalate the situation,” but not shoot the attacker:
MARK GLAZE: Very often somebody will come at you. They might want to have a fistfight. They might come at you with an axe handle.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Would you consider the guy with the axe handle armed or not?
MARK GLAZE: Not with a gun.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: I would consider him armed [laughter].
MARK GLAZE: I have a word for him. I grew up in Colorado where my dad was a gun dealer, and a guy who shoots somebody who has anything other than a gun when they could have done something else like talk or fight with their fists –
CHRIS MATTHEWS: How do you talk to a guy with an axe handle?
MARK GLAZE: Well, you fight him. You run away. You deescalate the situation.
An axe handle, depending on the state and manner of use, can legally constitute a deadly weapon.
A Washington Free Beacon investigation suggests attempting to fist fight or talk down a crazed axe handle wielding attacker may not be prudent advice:
Maybe if you throw an axe or two out of one of your window’s the perp/perps will run away in fear. Screw the shotgun. Buy a couple of hatchets.
The complete ignorance of the left when it comes to breathing distance struggles in life and death occurances boggles my mind. There is a real and brutal world of which they will never be exposed to. Thus never comprehend what has to be done.
This gives me a great idea for a movie. Imagine…on a planet similar to ours, a race of the powerful elite called “social engineers”. Through the manipulation of the food supply, chemicals, and a constant 24hrs stream of scripted subliminal information, transforms the entire planets population into an immense herd of two legged cattle. Consuming, producing, docile cattle. I’ve got your axe handle right here Mr. Glaze.
Have you looked around lately? Most are willingly turning themselves into two legged cattle. You could litterally just walk around New York for a couple hours and have enough for your movie.
Never, as long as it’s in line with the current agenda.
It’s the “pussification” of America that’s been going on since the 60’s. I don’t see it changing anytime soon, they breed faster than we do.
Have any of you guys seen several of the self defense videos on World Star Hip Hop?
I know most of you aren’t fans of the site, neither am I, but it has some pretty crazy “real life” stuff.
Anyway, what got me was a particular video where 5 or 6 extremely angry men were trying to gain access to an apartment and a crowd had formed. They literally wanted to kill the guy inside. He had “disrespected” them.
When they finally kicked the door in he was standing there with a shotgun and they took cover around the corner and started yelling “put the gun down pu$$y, fight like a real man”
That really stuck with me. That is the mentality of the left. Just get your ass beat or get killed, don’t defend yourself with a gun. Using a gun when you’re already outnumbered 5 to 1 makes you a coward in their eyes.
This guy is far behind the curve, we all know that the proper technique in self-defense is to regurgitate, urinate, and or defecate on one’s self to fend off said attackers. The dreaded rape whistle should not be left out of the equation either.
Names and a ****ed up world view are meaningless to me. Threaten my life or that of my loved ones and people will be attending the funerals of the POS “cowards” that need to greatly outnumber their victims or have some other disparity of force advantage.
This ****ing discussion (not this forum topic, this discussion) has gotten so ass under tits it’s insane.
Here are my thoughts for the Pro Shoot First people: “Don’t be a pussy!!! If you shoot someone because they simply scare you, you are a pussy, a meek pathetic little pussy who needs to go learn how to be a real man. My suggestion to you? Go get in a fist fight and get hit in the face a couple of times. When you realize it doesn’t hurt, and you learn how to throw a punch, then maybe you can carry a gun.”
My thoughts for the Anti All Gun People: “Stop being elitist ****ing snobs who are so privileged and out of touch with the 21st century that you still think your ****ing Yoga instructor’s version or Gandhi’s “revolution” can get you out of all physically harmful situations. There are times when you will not be able to “OOOHHHMMMM” yourself out of a conflict, and your “Back off maaann, peace bro.” approach towards life may get you killed. STOP BEING A PUSSY and accept that not everyone on this planet is nice all the time.”
If you want me, I’ll be sitting well armed and very confident right smack dab in the middle. In one hand I will be carrying my knowledge of human conflict and how I don’t need to simply shoot a mofo because he raises his voice and does a few “come on bro” pushes. And in the other I’ll carry deadly force like I have done so for years.
I don’t disagree with some of what this dingle berry said. I’ve had people draw “deadly” weapons on me before, and if I would have shot those particular people I would have spent my entire life feeling like a pussy and a failure. Because shooting them would have been the second most pussy thing I could have done. First would have been run away of course.
So take that for what it’s worth. Learn all the realities of human conflict before you resort to deadly force, because deadly force is and should always remain the last resort.
I’m sure you are a big tough guy with a Tap Out shirt to prove it but who are you kidding? Not everyone wants to roll around on the ground with assholes and if you happen to be armed it’s a stupid ass move that can get you killed.
How about this? Don’t want to get shot? Don’t ****ing attack me. It’s that simple. I’m busy and I have people I’m responsible for. I don’t have time for the ultimate toughman throw down with every scumbag retard on the street who thinks they are entitled to hit people when they aren’t happy.
Guess what, I’ve been punched in the face plenty of times. But here’s something you didn’t think of. When you underestimate the next guy who can’t hurt you with his punch and he cleans your ****ing clock you are now unconscious and at the discretion of his good or bad intentions. Oh and he now has your gun.
Also not everyone is a super macho he stud like yourself. I know a guy in his 30s who did a couple weeks in the hospital because he stepped off a ladder wrong and ****ed up his back. Guess what happens when you punch some people in the face? So people are supposed to assume all that kind of risk of injury and loss of work because YOU think they should man up and go UFC with these retards?
Here’s another fun one I’ve seen before. You accept a friendly little parking lot brawl because “hey I know how to fight and this will be a chance to practice that new move I want to work on” and suddenly you have a knife between your ribs. Guess how real knife fighters let you know it’s really a knife fight? Your watching their jab everything looks good, the guy comes in for a friendly grapple and now you have a hole in your kidney.
If you choose to not carry a gun and are so manly that you can just Hulk Out on any attacker by all means do so. They will then move onto attacking the elderly, handicapped, etc. so they don’t get thrown into the octagon. The nice thing about stand your ground and lawful use of force if being attacked is those guys tend to get retired for good and won’t be messing with anyone anymore.
And finally, in many states, fighting back can make you the aggressor for not retreating and in other states it’s the same as “being armed” if you can be demonstrated to be a proficient or experienced fighter.
I swear you give worse personal defense advice than Joe Biden.
Jesus Christ if being worried about if something is a “pussy move” is driving your decisions, stop carrying a gun. If you can bail on a situation and choose to stay to demonstrate you ain’t a pussy you will have your self image, but what will be left when 5 of his homies show up and you could have left?
Your views are amazingly offensive and poorly thought out. Your advice ranks right up there with telling rape victims they should try and enjoy it.
I’d hate to think what you feel about snipers who engage their enemies hidden and shoot them when they don’t even know they are being targeted.
If a guy is coming at me with a deadly weapon, I am going to shoot to stop the attack as soon as I can. That is because sometimes things can go wrong and you now have to improvise on the fly. Concerns about being a pussy are far outweighed by concerns about being a dumbass and I could have prevented everything I’m dealing with (injury, imminent death, etc.) but I didn’t act when the opportunity presented itself.
I’ve dealt with a few LEOs, who I suspect are more capable than you when it comes to hitting people back, who ****ed up and got shot or stabbed and almost to a man they still blame themselves for ****ing around when they should have stopped the situation.
Let me ask you the same question that the MSNBC douche could not answer: where is the epidemic of CCW holders using deadly force when they are on the losing end of a fist fight?
It is really not all that surprising that there is no such epidemic. That is because most CCW holders are not stupid enough to get into fist fights in the first place. Most of us avoid these situations (bars, night clubs, etc.) like the plague because we have family responsibilities. Thus, it should come at no surprise that if I am shooting an unarmed person it is because they are either 1) an intruder in my house, or 2) managed to ambush me in a manner that keeps me from defending myself from serious injury. Both of these scenarios are very different than squaring off in a ring which does not happen at my age.