Seems like it dropped off the face of the earth. I’ve seen the price dropping steadily over the past few months. Any idea where the price will settle? I think the novelty of it has worn off and disappointment has set in. Any thoughts on the future direction of the ACR?
A product only gets one chance to make a big splash in the market with its debut. The ACR made its big splash in a cow pie. It has been written off by many people who will never look back. That problem has been exacerbated by the hype concerning the Magpul Masada (ACR) that went on for years, getting people’s expectations really high. Now, even if the ACR drops to $1500, personally I doubt that they will move significant numbers of it ever.
imo, a couple of issues come to my mind.
Over staturated market in a flat economy
Too late to the party
Better choices available (in many people’s eyes)
Conceptually a nice weapon.
In application & reality poor execution & not all that.
YMMV…
Just must opinion. I think the release of the enhanced version and the lowering of the price is a step in the right direction. Once the price gets between $1500 to $1800 in conjunction with a light weight 1/7" barrel, more people will be willing to take a second look. Also, the performance of the Remington ACR in the upcoming Army rifle competition (if it ever happens), will influence people.
Thanks mods, I was going to ask to move it here.
Don’t know but I’m looking forward to it hitting $1500.
Pretty much this. Personally, I wasn’t a big fan of all the weight up front when I handled one at a recent gun show. Bushmaster is making a Basic ACR with a folding stock for 2011, which is the setup I would want if I was going to buy one. Once they start producing lightweight 1:7 barrels, the lowers that take AR15 grips, and the price falls under $1500, I’ll think about getting one.
Yep.
And I know industry professionals read these forums. One more time!:
There is NO market for yet ANOTHER $1000+ assault rifle!
Go back to the drawing board and make a modern, low cost, high reliability, military grade weapon.
I think this is one of the first things they teach you in an engineering program. It is easy to make the product heavier, more complicated and at higher cost. The challenge is to make it lighter, simpler and cheaper.
i just watched a black basic go unbid for 1500, if bm ever releases more barrels i think it might pick up a little bit, the msrp also has gone down about 500$
mine will have a 1/7 noveske barrel once my form 1 comes back…
i love my acr, my only complaint is the weight
If they did this a lot of people would start buying them. I’d still like to know how with all that polymer they still end up a full pound heavier than the SCAR 16…
-B
Absolutely.
Most of us knew when Magpul chose Bushmaster for mass producing the Masada, it was handing them a coat hanger for the abortion which is now the ACR. What a fucking disappointment and to charge $2800 for that POS on the initial offering. We knew Bushmaster would fuck this up five ways to Sunday and twice on Saturday. We all hoped this weapon would be what the Masada was, and maybe, just maybe, BM would see the light and make, for once, a quality firearm worthy of the people on this forum and for users down range. It wasn’t meant to be. They just reinforced our collective belief, that Bushmaster will always go for the quick buck, play to the bubba crowd, is incapable of producing a weapon without quirks and unworthy of ownership. The roll mark should have been BM FAIL!
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Oh man, that’s harsh…
Make sure to read the whole post, it sounds a little like I’m off topic but I try to bring it back to relevancy(if thats a word).
I was really into the hype when the Scar was being released. Got on a waiting list, paid full price( a deal at the time) and have put a lot rounds down range with it.
After owning it nearly 2 years I often think, was that all I wanted it to be? The answer is maybe. I have always wanted a scar since I first saw one so with that I say yes. However, over the past year I have shot my colt 6920 more. They both do the same thing, but the colt and an acog were a little less than the scar without optics.
Due to that I never could get on the ACR bandwagon at the price initially quoted. That turned me off to the ACR until price comes down or it turns out to be the greatest thing around. There are few things about the rifle itself, but the sticker shock got me.
If the rifle was good, people would get over the price issue. -Good gear costs money.
The problem is that the ACR has a list of things that shooters are unhappy about. Whether it is the weight, the balance, the twist rate, configuration, or something else, the ACR is not what the market hoped it would be.
From what I understand, one of the main reasons it is heavy and does not balance well is its feature to swap out barrels without a tool. I know it’s blasphemy to be willing to forgo this feature, but it seems like this particular rifle might be better without it.
the rifle is made of aluminum, the lower, stock and basic handguard are polimer,
I think the ACR is a kick ass product.
It shoots buttery smooth, is accurate, ultra modular, easy to maintain and is generally well thought out.
I ordered one, but passed on it after it finally came in because I personally felt the price was beyond excessive.
That’s really what it all boils down to; price. Many people are asshurt by the ACR’s price tag which has created a very heated backlash, as seen here.
If the ACR had dropped at the unrealistic $1500 price point, it would would have taken the market by storm.
I still want an ACR, but I am waiting until the price comes down and SBR barrels become available.
Here is a photo I took of the ACR I passed on. It isn’t the popular opinion, but I think it is very cool. $2000 for an enhanced model is my magic number…if SBR barrels are available
The Masada was announced in a great economy with a promised list of features. The ACR was released in a shitty economy with the most promising of the promises omitted.
It’s heavy, it’s expensive, it comes with proprietary parts from a company with a spotty record. Outside of collectors and those with a particular need to be anachronstic, it offers nothing over the legacy gun.
Cheaper than dirt has sub 2K ACR’s.
I like the controls, esp the bolt release concept (the one I tried was to tight for trigger finger bolt release) I would hope for a fully ambi charging handle in future models.
Barrel swap w/o tool is of no use to me & a detriment to a general issue weapon.
I’d like to see Remington MPD put this little piggy on a diet and mature it.
The general list of gripes seems to look like:
[ul]
[li]Price[/li][li]Weight[/li][li]Pistol grip[/li][li]Barrel-change feature[/li][li]Barrel (profile)[/li][li]No SBR barrel[/li][li]Bushmaster[/ul][/li]That about right? I’d also include my gripe about the physical size (front end seems and feels large compared to pictures of the prototype weapons), but I haven’t seen that as a common complaint.
It’s quite a statement that some people aren’t sending their ACRs back for the recall because they don’t trust Bushmaster to not screw up an otherwise functioning rifle.
-B
why wouldnt someone send it back? Bushy paid for shipping both ways, gave me a hard case and 2 mags when it came back.
Biggest thing it needs now is a LW barrel profile option.