What do yall think?-CIA Recruiting Arab-Americans

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/ap_on_re_us/us_cia_recruiting_arabs

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DEARBORN, Mich. – There’s a swirl of activity in a spacious, modern kitchen as final meal preparations are made.

An older man tries to swipe a felafel off an appetizer plate but instead gets a loving hand slap from a woman. The happy, well-dressed guests move to a table full of food in a dining room adorned with Middle Eastern wall-hangings.

It’s an inviting, if idealized, dinner party scene from any Arab-American home — at least that’s what the CIA seeks to convey in the first television commercial of its kind. The agency, in turn, hopes it’s an inviting message to U.S. Arabs.

“Your nation, your world,” a male voice says with a Middle Eastern accent, as the frame moves outside and pans out to show the party through a window of a gleaming, high-rise building. In seconds, the shot zooms out to an image of the U.S. from space. "They’re worth protecting.

“Careers in the CIA.”

The commercial, which the agency plans to debut on mainstream and ethnic TV stations and Web sites nationwide within the next few months, represents artistic and technological leaps for the agency. Until now, its print, broadcast and Web advertising has focused on the variety of career options and the diversity among its ranks, but the agency hasn’t used a storytelling approach to sell its message.

It’s part of an ambitious outreach effort to communities the CIA deems critical to reducing the threat of terrorism in the U.S. The agency has a five-year plan to boost fluency in Arabic and other languages.

But resistance could come from U.S. Arabs who have felt the sting of suspicion since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Many Arabs and Muslims have been dubious of the government’s intelligence gathering and believe spying is going on in mosques and other places.

The CIA on Wednesday held a private screening of the commercial and another 30-second spot aimed at recruiting Iranian-Americans. Each drew applause from the group of about 40 people gathered for the viewing in Dearborn, in the heart of Michigan’s large Middle Eastern community.

Daw Alwerfalli, a mechanical engineering professor at Lawrence Technological University in the Detroit suburb of Southfield, said he liked the casual approach. An added benefit and point of pride for Alwerfalli: His son, Tamer, was among the actors.

“It’s talking to anybody — it shows that the CIA cares about the integrity of the family in general,” Alwerfalli said.

Suehaila Amen, 30, thought the commercial was visually appealing and positive, but it “didn’t resonate” with her because it didn’t fully deliver on its message.

“I just saw family together sharing a meal, doing what we do best — the hugs and kisses over great food and great company — but I didn’t see why it’s important to the CIA,” said Amen, a community activist in Dearborn.

The ad’s soft-selling, storytelling approach emerged from focus groups and conversations with CIA employees of Middle Eastern heritage. The research revealed that Arab-Americans want to retain their ties to their homelands but embrace a sense of duty to the U.S. They stressed a desire to work in places where they can use their experiences and enjoy an exciting career.

“It’s important for them to know we understand how important their culture is to them. They’re not going to lose that once they walk through the front doors of the CIA to work,” said Christina Petrosian, chief of advertising and marketing for agency’s recruitment and retention center.

Petrosian and her team filmed the commercial in the same Hollywood studio that once was home to Desilu Productions and the pioneering 1950s sitcom “I Love Lucy,” which itself broke ethnic barriers by costarring Cuban-American actor Desi Arnaz in the role of Ricky Ricardo.

Petrosian believes the commercial portrays a broad yet authentic slice of life that will resonate with its audience.

“We hear over and over again, ‘The CIA is not even on my radar to come and apply,’” she said. “Showing the commercial in this way — with a Middle Eastern focus — hopefully that will generate that interest.”[/i]

Considering what just went down a couple of weeks ago, Im a little apprehensive to say the least.

Would you rather them recruit exclusively “good honest white folk?” I don’t pretend to know what all happens at the CIA, but one would assume that if I were recruiting turncoats and informants, it would help to look and talk like them.

I also assume that they CIA is a little more on top of their game, and if one of their people is making comments similar to what this guy at Ft. Hood was that they’d be all over his ass.

A lot of assumption, but no it doesn’t bother me…in fact I think it’s going to help them accomplish their mission.

I hope it helps them as well. I never condemned the plan. Just wary thats all.

We can only hope the CIA is more on top of their game than the Army. You would never have thought that the Army would have allowed such a person to be in their organization either.

Understandably wary. But I’d be much more worried if they thought that they could accomplish their mission without the cultural and religious insight of people who understand our enemy. It’s almost criminal that as a country it’s taken us this long to think it might help to pay attention to what actually motivates the jihadists of the world. Hopefully this will help to push out some of the “global caliphate” nonsense and allow us to be more effective in our fight.

I’m never surprised by bureaucracy failing the people in a dangerous fashion, but I agree with the gist of what you’re saying.

A tv commercial isn’t recruiting informants and turncoats, it’s recruiting employees. And I have a problem with that.

Like the US Army and Marine Corps recruiting Huns in 1917 ?
Irish and Hungarians , too.
Even Japs in 1942 though 1945.

These kinds of things are nothing new. Wary can be smart , but bigoted is almost always stupid.

Ahh…the good, old ‘ignorant bigot’ flag. Now I’m comfortable. Maybe afterward we can compare academic credentials, though I suspect you’ll come out on the short end of that stick.

Islam is a belief system that directs its followers to behave in specific ways. It is NOT a national origin, a biological trait, or something that can be reasoned with. It is no more ‘rational’ by Western standards than the Heaven’s Gate cult, the folks at Jonestown, or cannibalism.

Its followers should NEVER be allowed in a position of trust with the US government.

And fundamental Christianity is so much better? (This really isn’t meant as flame bait, I promise. But to some, crazy Christians are just as bad as crazy Muslims.)

Look… There are Arabs in the world. Seeking out someone who may have an upper-hand in the whole “intelligence” of a religion they are familiar with only strengthens our intel.

Would you ask a Jew to tell you about Christianity? No.

“Comparing educations” has no bearing on the subject matter. This is an entirely personal opinion. Do I get a little nervous when I see a bearded man with a (I know they aren’t called turbans, but I’m spacing on the term) in the airport? Of course. I’m an American who was alive on 9/11. It doesn’t mean I’m right, and it points to the general fear/bigotry/hatred of a religion/culture/people that MOST of us do NOT understand.

I personally know several Muslim men, women and children who shed the same amount of tears as I did on that Fateful Day. Two of them joined the Marines that year, and are STILL serving today.

If you have a deep, personal understanding of every Arabic persons belief structure, maybe you should call the CIA yourself and lend them a hand on weeding out the Jihadists. Other than that, your opinion is just that.

(It is of note to state that certain Irish sects, good, wholesome white folk, are bombing the everloving hell out of other wholesome white folk, and have been doing so for a loooooooong time. It’s also fun to point out that there are more serial killers of the Caucasian race than any other race. Some of them are even Christian, God forbid. The next argument will be “But Christianity does not teach us to slaughter the Infidel!” And you would be correct. But if EVERY Arab/Muslim in the world wanted us dead, we’d be fucking dead. The fact that we are still alive and kicking just says to me that your logic is flawed in believing that ALL Muslims/Arabs are Terrorists. If this were the truth, I would have been shot dead when I went and got my falafel yesterday.)

I could be wrong, but I dont believe it says any where in the Christian bible that if you don’t convert to Christianity, you should be killed?
It seems to me that all the major religions of the world coexist allot better with all the other’s except muslims?
I am not uncomfortable with the CIA recruiting anybody that will help them, but caution, bordering on paranoia, should used to vet the recruits of muslim faith.

This is nothing new really. They have been recruiting Arab-Americans as well as Chinese, Russian, Korean, you-name-it for years. I wont go into ways/means but they have a great record for solid recruiting. Granted a few have slipped thru but you’d be suprised.

I have met Arabic Christians… Maybe that is the group the CIA is looking to recruit? :smiley:

-Will

The military has been running with the “Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest” (MAVNI) since last Feburary. It has been a success.

IMO…it’s a good idea. The Hood POS slipped through the system because he was an American; born and raised. The people being recruited now are coming in fully screened.

Keep having it. Informants and turncoats are paid or in some way compensated = employees.

From a domestic “COIN” standpoint, it makes sense, on top of the fact that it doesn’t make sense to recruit Middle Eastern linguists and intelligence analysts from among the WASPs inundating someplace like, say, Toothclench, Connecticut or Buttplug, Idaho.

I’m tracking with what your saying but I think we need to come up with a different approach. By allowing them to get tourist visa; there is a level of trust with the US government to be visiting the US. I don’t think NEVER is route that we should go but the current system in place does not work.

When I worked counter drug, we ran into a problem with CTI’s (linguists) only speaking proper Spanish. The drug runners only use slang. So there was a disconnect.

The Navy went out into the other rates and found native Spanish speakers to help with the problem.

I imagine the CIA has realized that they don’t have very many Arabic members and need them to blend in better.

C4

Meh, it’s the Fed - what do ya expect? Target them for recruitment and show they are dedicated to “working with them.”

They probably want to “reach out” to that specific group of people to keep the Muslim equivalent of Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton at bay.

Especially around here (Detroit/Dearborn), with the recent FBI raid where the K9 (RIP doggy) and that clergy leader/suspected terrorist were killed.

IIRC, the Fed had a similar recruitment drive (preference for Arab-American languages, etc) during their LE hiring shortly after 9/11…

Agreed.

The agency has a world wide stage. It’s wise to recruit from an ethnicity that you have a shortage in. Quite often than not, linguistics is not enough. During a typical conversation, a lot of cultures are not as straight forward as the US. You need people who can understand the variations in dialog and are culturally immersed to “get” what is actually conveyed.

[QUOTE=Terry;500491]I could be wrong, but I dont believe it says any where in the Christian bible that if you don’t convert to Christianity, you should be killed?
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You are correct. The alternative, of course, is to burn in Hell for all eternity if you don’t convert to Christianity.

I’m not saying anyone here is wrong, and we all have opinions on the matter. But alienating one group for a small number of radicals (okay, relatively small) is sort of extreme. It’s sort of like bombing the entireity of North Korea because you wanna get KJI out…

sounds like Christianity to me.

To the thinking among us, there is no surprise here.