In the last few weeks, I have been doing maybe 30-45 minutes of elliptical work (…with the resistance cranked way up so it actually does some good) after doing an upper body free weight session (hour and a half of dumbell presses, curls, flys, rows, tricep kickbacks…etc.).
Is this a bad idea? Someone told me that doing weight training and cardio on the same day is counter-productive. If my weight work is upper body and the elliptical is lower…does it matter?
My daughter joins me at the club, after her tennis lesson and my weight workout and this was something we can do together when we cannot get outside to hit on the tennis court. When the weather gets better…I plan on taking back up with tennis and using my “cardio days” helping my daughter improve her game (she is on the high school tennis team). I am not a huge fan of indoor cardio on a machine like a treadmill, bike or even this elliptical…rather be outside.
So is cardio on the same day as weights a bad idea? I know it is important to do both weights AND cardio but never found a straight answer on whether one right after the other is good or bad.
I don’t know if I’d follow up a lower body workout with the elliptical or running but after lifting upper body…man…I like how it sort of “finishes things off” for me.
I figured burning calories is burning calories…does it matter when you do it?
I always do cardio first as a warm up, nothing high intensity, just 15-30 min of stair climber on hard level or elliptical / jumping rope. I’m also interested…
Brick- 1.5 hour weight session! Your probably getting a solid cardio workout there if your not taking breaks- my supersets leave me feeling like I ran sprints.
I do calisthenics and cardio every single morning. Not because I want to, but unfortunately the Army have their own ideals for physical training.
I supplement this with weight lifting almost every afternoon. And while I’ll admit I’m far from being the pinnacle of physical fitness, I’ve never seen a downside to training like this and consistently perform at the top of my Company.
I’m happy with what I do. The question is, are you? If so, keep on rocking.
My 1.5 hour upper body sessions usually involve SOME short breaks. At age 48…I am not looking to injure myself! LOL
No breaks longer than a few minutes, though. Just enough to get a quick sip of water or stop panting! LOL
That workout usually consists of dumbbell bench press (incline press too), dumbbell military press, dumbbell flys, dumbbell rows, cable flys, dumbbell curls/hammer curls, tricep kickbacks, skull crushers and maybe cable curls. Either doing super sets or 4 sets of 12 each takes me a good 1.5 hours.
By that time…yeah…I could not do anymore upper body stuff but I feel just fine to go at least 30 minutes on the elliptical.
I wish I could remember where it was that I read you should not do cardio and weights on the same day. Seems fine to me but I am no expert.
I don’t do lower body workouts; I run or jog stairs to work out my legs. I will throw in box jumps from time to time. I don’t know how well I could run after a leg routine.
I’ve always done fasting cardio first thing in the mornings followed 8 hrs later with weight training. has always worked for me and is what has always been recommended by the various forums I’ve been a member at
and some times I would add in a 1 mile treadmill run after weights based on how I’m feeling
I don’t, unless you consider mountain biking (singletrack) to be cardio (I don’t really since I’m not using a single speed).
I’m not much of a runner though. It gets way too boring after two miles.
I only do full body supersets (had to google that term; I hate just standing around in the gym) every other day. Usually I’m in and out in about an hour. While weight training doesn’t really make me sweat if I keep it heavy and lower reps (5-10), I’m usually wiped out and light headed when I’m done (I train fasted), so cardio right after would be a bad idea for me.
Not sure if cardio will hurt your gains, or if that’s just broscience. I’d up your cals to account for the cardio though (unless you’re trying to loose weight).
When I lift heavy on lower body dominant lifts (Squats, Cleans, Snatches), I always follow up with a high intensity low volume sprint of some sort. I do this about twice a week.
For example, 70 yards sprints on the minute for 10 minutes at 90% intensity. I also do the same thing with bleachers.
I loathe running distance, but the high intensity stuff actually carries over into my lifts. I believe it helps with explosiveness. The high intensity stuff seems to work better for me. I’ve noticed that I stay leaner without losing strength like I did with endurance training.
Every day this week thus far, I’ve done 4 miles @ 7:30 pace, which I would consider easy, then 30:00 on the bike keeping my heart rate about 130 BPM, which nets me about 9.2 miles in the allotted time, followed by weights.
The short answer is that it totally depends on your physical condition. When you get into higher levels of conditioning you’ll have to make larger and larger training commitments to make smaller gains. When you’re running a 10:00 mile, it doesn’t take much to improve. At a 6:00, the gains are smaller for much more training.
There is a lot to be said for lower intensity duration training, and high intensity has its place as well. From my experience though, its much easier to get hurt on faster or interval runs than it is long(er) ones.
In the same day, no problem. I’d say no in the same session, but this is a general answer not knowing any other pertinent facts.
When you finish your strength training re-fueling the body with protein shortly thereafter is an important part of building muscle. Jumping straight to cardio delays the fueling process. So, let’s say your goal is to build muscle I’d separate cardio and weights into two workouts in the same day.
I’ve heard before that weight training and cardio on the same day can compromise your strength gains. BUT, here’s an article from the NY Times (I know…) about a University research study which found no indications of “interference”; i.e. doing cardio before or after lifting weights does not compromise your workout:
However, if you do cardio after you lift, the increased blood flow may help flush lactic acid from your muscles and reduce next day & 2nd day after soreness.
If my goal is to just stay relatively thin and not gain weight…I would think that doing more activities that burn calories is better than going home and watching tv and eating even healthy foods.
I am not trying to look like Arnold or gain strength to win a lifting contest…just remain healthy and not get fat as I reach 50.
You can, and it will be beneficial. But you induce a lot more stress on the body through an exaggerated release of cortisol after your workout. I myself lift at 0600, and after classes and such get home an run between 3-6 miles by 1800. That way you can replenish lost protein, vitamins, and help a stressed CNS recover slightly before your next workout, be it weights or running. Also, putting time between your workout and run allows you to train at a relatively higher intensity, making gains/progress that much more. But, I do see a lot of guys follow your same pattern too, so it obviously works. At least your doing something.
Depends mostly on your goals. If your goals is to get stronger, add muscle, etc, then doing cardio right after could be counter productive yes. Two, hour and a half including kick backs and flys? Stick to primary multi joint, best bang for the buck, exercises like squats, chin ups, bent rows, standing press, and forget things like kick backs, all of which should easily be done in 40mins to an hour max.
Finally, if I read the above correctly, no lower body work other than aerobic work? Stop that. Do a proper program that includes lower body work.
With 5 cardio sessions per week and 3 weight-lifting ones, well…do the math. Yes, there are a day or two each week where I have to do both in one day. Always do cardio first though.
You lost me at tricep kickbacks and flyes. Maybe something like Starting Strength, Stronglifts 5x5 or Jim Wendler’s 5/3/1 for your strength training programming.